#1
i've been trying to get the tone from queen's "tie your mother down"
but cant seem to get it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGDGwDnJvps

at the part at 1:02, i play it and it sounds a little too muddy, can anyone tell me how to fix this? i'm using a peavey vypyr tube 60 and im currently on the brit amp on red with the pre gain on around 3/7
Low 3/7
mids 6/7
highs 7/7
no effects or stomp boxes
is there an effect in there that i didn't notice?

i dont know why but it still sounds a little too bassy/muddy
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#5
If it's too muddy try rolling down the mids. They usually bring a lot of muddiness to the tone.

That, and use the bridge pickup. If you're using a pedal for the OD, play with the tone knob aswell. The tone you're looking for isn't hard to replicate imo. So you should be able to nail it.
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If it's too muddy try rolling down the mids. They usually bring a lot of muddiness to the tone.

That, and use the bridge pickup. If you're using a pedal for the OD, play with the tone knob aswell. The tone you're looking for isn't hard to replicate imo. So you should be able to nail it.


I'd say mids do the opposite...

TS, what's the guitar? The single coils in Brian's guitar gave it a lot of cut, you may just be missing that effect.
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#8
I believe you are correct. May help to try boosting the sound a bit
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#9
well to answer your question

im using a ibanez rg3exfm1 (humbuckers)
but i can split the coil but i still cant get the tone, and i dont know why.
#10
And no i'm not using a pedal for the od, im just using the gain on the amp, although i could give my old boss ds-1 a try,

i also found that it gets muddier sounding the louder i make it the amp, if i raise the master volume it just gets muddier.
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Perhaps a tube screamer would assist a bit?


the song isn't very distorted though... not questioning your knowledge but wouldn't the use for a tubescreamer or any other stomp box be sorta excessive for this song?
#14
No, it wouldn't. Play with the gain/drive on both the tubescreamer and the amp until you get something near what you want. It's not about how much distortion, it's the colour of that distortion. If you kept the gain down (and level on the TS) you could get it clean. You don't have to dime everything, it's all about balance.
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No, it wouldn't. Play with the gain/drive on both the tubescreamer and the amp until you get something near what you want. It's not about how much distortion, it's the colour of that distortion. If you kept the gain down (and level on the TS) you could get it clean. You don't have to dime everything, it's all about balance.


okay thank you, i'll definitely try that out.
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TS, what's the guitar? The single coils in Brian's guitar gave it a lot of cut, you may just be missing that effect.


that's what i was going to say

Quote by GuitarNewbee

im using a ibanez rg3exfm1 (humbuckers)
but i can split the coil but i still cant get the tone, and i dont know why.


yeah try splitting them but it probably won't get exact, since a split humbucker is still slightly different from a "real" single coil.

also you're using a modelling amp at home volumes, it's probably not going to get exactly 100% there nomatter what you do. you should be able to get into the ballpark, though.
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#17
This is why I don't like modeling amps. I consider them a reasonable facsimile of a real tube amp.

The few I've played always had too much bottom, usually muddy. If I were trying to get that sound, I would go for a clean amp with a good overdrive pedal in front of it, gain turned up pretty high on the overdrive pedal. That's how I usually run my Marshall Bluesbreaker overdrive through a Super Reverb. Our normal onstage volume level is pretty low, I rarely get the amp volume above about 4, which is still completely clean, so I run the Bluesbreaker for overdrive with the gain just high enough for a little growl, and a Boss distortion pedal (DS1? I can't remember) that I modded so it works as both distortion and overdrive, depending on how I set the gain. I set that a for little more gain than the overdrive, and it seems to work well.

Running it that way you can use a little more bass in the amp, and you can also fatten it up a little by tweaking the mids control. Bring the mids up and it will accent the bass as well, but shouldn't muddy it if you keep the amp set for a clean sound. Set the amp for a dirty sound, it's usually too muddy and that's hard to filter out using the tone controls. So I would go for a clean sound and use pedals to get close to that sound. We've been thinking about adding "Fat Bottom Girls" to our list, I get pretty close to that sound using the Marshall Bluesbreaker with the gain up to around 9/10 through a clean amp.
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