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I live in Phoenix, AZ. People here complain all the time that there's nothing to do. I always thought it was the same everywhere else (everyone seems to hate where they live) but now idk if there is a big, modern city as lifeless as Phoenix.

We have cool stuff to do sometimes. There's like a city wide art walk on the first Friday of every month, we have a comic con every year, there's a few cool places to eat...but as far as things go, there are almost never any people walking around the city during the day, or at night. The city has no real culture or vibe on its own. It just kinda has all the things a city should have, but no personality.

So I figured i'd ask, what makes a city fun to live in? Is it a myth that there are fun places to actually live? Is it a matter of just being creative enough to find things to do? Do we just need to find hookers and blow?
#2
obviously creativity is a part of it, but some places are more suited for certain types of people

like I love London, more than any other place, and I could have fun there all the time. But I know some people that hate London.
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#3
wouldn't know, I never lived in a fun city
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obviously creativity is a part of it, but some places are more suited for certain types of people

like I love London, more than any other place, and I could have fun there all the time. But I know some people that hate London.

How do you have fun? Also, what is fun?

But srs, what makes London fun for you? Night out on the town with friends? Does London have an interesting social scene? Some sense of community?
#6
lol definitely not the sense of community in london.

There's a million different interesting social scenes. I love the different cultures and the variety. I love the expanse of the city. I love learning about its history. There's always something to do. Great chinatown, world-renowned theatre productions. amazing museums. and yeah night out wiht the mates is pretty lekker.
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There's like a city wide art walk on the first Friday of every month
Hey, we do that.

Anyways, part of it is what you listed, but there's also attractions. Six Flags, Seaworld, Disneyland/world, beach, casinos, shows, etc.

There might be something similar to those in town, but I guess, so to speak, they have to make an effort to find it. And if it's not mainstream, it probably won't get a very large reputation.

p.s. I live in San Antonio, TX. There's plenty of fun here.
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#8
It all depends on what makes you want to do fun things in a city. Obviously if you live in a town of 100 people it sucks shit, but if you're in a city there's probably infinite things you can do if you put your money, resources and mind to it.
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#9
London sounds pretty awesome. I bet the city has a ton of history, it has seen so much. Phoenix has maybe one or two museums. It has a pretty rad science center, which I have been meaning to go to for a while. Like I said, we do have some cool things, but they seem like once-in-a-long-while sorta cool things.

What's the art walk like in San Antonio? Ours is alright. Lots of galleries, people selling stuff...a ton of bands playing in the street. I always liked First Friday.

So do you guys actively search out things to do, and do you regularly spend money to do things?

What happens with my friends is that we'll get together, everyone will ask each other what to do, no one knows, so we often use that as an excuse to get high and be lazy. But it seems like i'm the only one who doesn't wanna do that anymore. I typically don't have too much money to spend. Same for my friends. But I'm the kinda person that is down to even just go out and explore somewhere on foot and just hang out. No one else seems to want to do that, so idk if I just need new friends.

Idk if it's just a money issue either. I've hung out with friends who had money to blow and it was still hard to find something cool to do. A group of friends I used to go clubbing with a lot always complained about there being nothing to do here, and they were always ready to spend money.
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#10
I've lived in a small town.

I imagine the city depends on how much spending money you have, but here you can just blow your money on booze, meth, and rifles in small town I guess.
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#13
I reckon it comes down to knowing people, and knowing what you yourself likes. There is always something to do if you wanna just get out and do it. I mean I've thought places I lived were shit, and good and they were the SAME DAMN PLACE.
Just that at one time I was depressed and didn't want to go out and meet people and socialise, and other times I was keen on getting out and having a good time.

I actually don't like big cities all that much. Fun to visit sometimes, but they are too busy and noisy for me (I grew up in a fairly small town, so that's probably why.) That said it is usually easier to find some kind of niche interest group, smaller places are a bit more generic.
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#14
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What's the art walk like in San Antonio? Ours is alright. Lots of galleries, people selling stuff...a ton of bands playing in the street. I always liked First Friday.
I'm not a very artsy person, but I've gone maybe 3 or 4 times. It's pretty much the same as yours. Lots of friendly people with lots of arts and crafts to look at/buy. I think they'll have one or two bands in the street. Quite positive.

So do you guys actively search out things to do, and do you regularly spend money to do things?
Not very often with the time I have. But we do look at everything that's going on whenever we feel like it. If we don't find anything, we just settle for movies and a restaurant and maybe some shopping.

I'd say we do something eventful maybe once every month or two. Or longer. Just depends on a few things, really. Like celebrating/time off/summer vacation/ etc.

When we do do something, I already know I'm going to pay for it. Either that, or not go, but where's the fun in that?
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#16
Favourite place I've ever lived or been to is Norwich.

On the outside it's just a sleepy jumped up town with a lot of shops, pubs, a university, some parks and residential section.

However scratch beneath the surface and it's so much more. It's the safest city in the UK with the lowest crime rate, there's always some kind of event on whether it's a concert, an art exhibition or whatever. There's hundreds of pubs, restaurants and bars you can go to, there's a whole load of old churches and cathedrals and a lot of culture to soak in, and every time I went to walk around the city I found something new. Everyone's friendly and there's just a great atmosphere all around. It's cheap as hell to live in too.

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#18
Reno, Nevada can be a fun place.
There are various cultural festivals throughout the year.
Italian, Irish, Latin, etc where they close off the "Main Street" (Virginia Street) and you can experience the music, food, artwork, dance, etc, of those various cultures.
They can be a lot of fun.
Downtown is open 24/7 and people walk around there 24/7 (not so much during the winter though).
Lots of casinos for you to loose your money at.
During the winter someone (dunno if its the city or someone/something private) sets up an outdoor ice skating rink near downtown.
There is also the bike path with various parks along its route that runs along side the Truckee river.
I used to ride that every Saturday from the far east end of the valley to downtown. A nice ride for the most part (Rock Park kinda smells though).

Then there is "Hot August Nights" in August (duh) where people from all over the country bring their classic cars and drive around, parades, parties, car shows, and such. Traffic can be a bitch though.
Also have "Street Vibrations" which is kinda like the motorcycle version of Hot August Nights with less emphasis on the "classic" part. Kinda like a wanna-be Sturgis I guess (never been to either though).

Then you have Lake Tahoe which is about an hours drive away from Reno.
Which is a great place and has some nice beaches and a lot of good restaurants.

As for the hookers and blow...
Go up to 4th street a few blocks east of downtown for the blow.
The hookers are about a 20 minute drive east of downtown. And its legal.
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The hookers are about a 20 minute drive east of downtown. And its legal.


The Wild Horse brothel? I saw a Louis Theroux doco on that place, was pretty fascinating actually.
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#22
Good food
Diversity
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Cultural activities
Nightlife
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#23
The area I live in is quite different from the rest of Dubai. This city does feel soulless, though. Strangers would never talk to each other on the street, there are no bands or musicians or street performers. There's 5 and 4 star hotels with loads of clubs, but with lots of hookers on the inside, so those are never fun either. They actually found a way to put a price tag on a night out with a stranger (I realize that this isn't novel, but this is the NORM here, this is what's considered regular).


Actually I want you to imagine that someone took capitalism, gave it adderall and then just let it masturbate onto a city. There are definitely small pockets of really cool stuff, art galleries that show old films for free, expecting no return whatsoever (this city has a warehouse area that's full of galleries, but it's so far removed from the city).


It's all about money tbh. Everything. No one plays music on the street cuz it isn't financially beneficial, but if you'd like there's a gov't sponsored open mic you and your friends could attend for a thirty dollar cover charge... except it isn't in a regular place and when it happens you weren't expecting it so you're really playing music around people, not to them.


And the gov't keeps saying "we need more culture and arts and food and extravagant hotels" and people go "wow, they really are trying hard to keep people happy". But no, they need that stuff cuz they want tourists. There's a reason the Dubai Mall, WORLD'S LARGEST SHOPPING MALL HOPE YOU FORGOT FOR LIKE 5 SECONDS AFTER YEARS OF LIVING HERE, gets more tourists than New York City. I consider that a sad fact of life.


So it's better your city have a couple of art walks a year, than to have a bunch of galleries that are all about sponsorship and price tags and who bought what and which Sheikh's cousin just made an offer on that one and what is he wearing and what car was he driving. Go for soulless, it's better than a greedy, rotten soul.
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There's a reason the Dubai Mall gets more tourists than New York City.

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#25
Dude, there's a metro station attached to that mall and it takes me 45 mins to reach the entrance of the mall. That walk has hundreds of shops on the way, but it isn't the actual mall yet. It's gigantic and extremely crowded. As you'd say, babylon
#27
For a chance to stay in NYC I would probably nuke Dubai, and I love this city (faults and all). I think everyone else who loves Dubai would say the same thing.
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#31
There's nowhere in the world I'd rather be than NYC in the summer.
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#32
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There's nowhere in the world I'd rather be than NYC in the summer.

i'll stick with New Brunswick. NYC's biting off more than i can chew.

then again, i don't know the city too well and end up getting stuck around heavy traffic tourist areas and fantasizing about punching old people and tourists in the face.

anyways, what makes a city fun to live in?

stuff to do. decent music scene. food. good public transit. a park or two. empty bars so i can drink with a friend and dominate the jukebox. liquor stores that don't close until 2 AM. drugs. young college ladies. food trucks. dirt. criminals. crazy people. a crazy guy in an electric wheelchair covered in lights that rolls around at night. show houses. drunk college kids to watch while you're doing acid. weed. religious nuts handing out pamphlets about the end of days. hispanic population for good Mexican/etc food. bum wine. smashing bottles against the walls of parking garages. people watching. people buying cigarettes from you for a dollar. head shops. Halloween. slutty Halloween costumes on college girls. taking acid and watching girls take their clothes off in front of you like you're not in the room and you're like "is this for real?" pizza. pizza places that also sell cigarettes. fried chicken. having someone call the cops on you for smoking a joint, but when the cops get there you have nothing on you, so you just play dumb and say some bullshit and the guy who called the cops on you who's standing in the shadows watching comes and apologizes. seeing college kids having a bad night because they couldn't find a party.
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#34
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The Wild Horse brothel? I saw a Louis Theroux doco on that place, was pretty fascinating actually.

There are few around.
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I live in Phoenix, AZ. People here complain all the time that there's nothing to do. I always thought it was the same everywhere else (everyone seems to hate where they live) but now idk if there is a big, modern city as lifeless as Phoenix.

We have cool stuff to do sometimes. There's like a city wide art walk on the first Friday of every month, we have a comic con every year, there's a few cool places to eat...but as far as things go, there are almost never any people walking around the city during the day, or at night. The city has no real culture or vibe on its own. It just kinda has all the things a city should have, but no personality.

So I figured i'd ask, what makes a city fun to live in? Is it a myth that there are fun places to actually live? Is it a matter of just being creative enough to find things to do? Do we just need to find hookers and blow?


Montreal is great in the summer. If you go downtown you will definitely find some festival on your travels, somewhere. The bigger ones are F1 weekend, Jazz Fest, Comedy Fest, but there is always something. Every year there is also nuit blanche which means metros are free and run all night, and all museums are free. The winter sucks, but you can navigate most of the downtown area through subterranean malls/metro system. There is also no shortage of shows and things, varieties of restaurants and bars and whatnot, whatever your style is. This is common in big cities though as there are enough people to support many varieties of things, but I think ethnic diversity helps that a lot also. There are also International firework displays every year. Once a week, a nation does a fireworks display to music on a radio station, in a worldwide competition. Summer in montreal is actually very awesome.

I think a lot that determines how much fun you have though, is who you're with as well. But it is true that in some places things can be repetitive because not much variety exists. Some people can do the exact same thing all the time no matter what is going in their city also. So, I think it is a bit of both.
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#36
Montreal also has just for laughs and igloofest. Plus buttloads of weed, graffiti, cheap as dirt rent and a mountain. come to think of it, it's actually a pretty cool city.


I actually think a city's value rests in the amount of openness to experience its culture provides. Events and get-togethers are swell and all but real value I think lies in absorption, empathy and support of individualism. You can't fake that.
#37
good music scene. underground stuff as well as a place everyone on tour plays.
nice food. can eat decent quality food of pretty much every type.
decent parks to chill in.
not too far from pleasant countryside for weekend escapes.
good transport system or roads so getting around is super easy and quick.
lots of museums and cultural locations


only thing I'd say is lacking in london is an overall communal spirit but when you have so many people it's hard to engage like that. when you go a bit out of the centre of london to north, east, west, south it's reasonably friendly and communal in each area, but you wouldn't get random small talk very much since everybody has things to be getting on with so can't hang about talking nonsense. a friend who lived here and moved back to their small, middle of nowhere town in ireland said they preferred being in a place where no one was in your business, which sums it up perfectly for me (they only moved back cause they fell in love with someone there on a random visit home.) It's a trade off for being in a place big enough to do pretty much anything. I can't see myself leaving this city anytime soon as I'd miss having the freedom to always find something new to experience at a whim.


most people who visit london just derp around the centre a bit and maybe hit camden market, which is a bit sad since most of the cool shit is happening in east and north.
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#38
I've lived in a lot of cities, most are boring after a while. Toronto is ok for a few months, but really full of a lot of posers and scumbags. London was way worse with the posers and classes, but some horny girls. Miami (SB) was gay as hell, Vancouver was boring, so best so far for me was Sydney, nice beaches, good weather, not too expensive
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I live in Phoenix, AZ. People here complain all the time that there's nothing to do. I always thought it was the same everywhere else (everyone seems to hate where they live) but now idk if there is a big, modern city as lifeless as Phoenix.


lol in Tucson everyone says that Phoenix is more interesting and they'd rather live there.

Houston is pretty similar to Phoenix in the sense that it's a big, modern city that is relatively 'lifeless'.

Tucson is a 'boring city' in the sense that it is lacking every fun thing that other cities have. But if you find the right people and are a productive person you can make it fun (not that I have done this lol). All of the things associated with big world cities- lots of local culture, events, nightlife, music, museums and similar things (kind of. I lol @ people on city websites arguing over whether or not Berlin is better than Paris based on its museums), etc. all make things exciting but they still don't do shit if you don't go out looking for fun.

Edit: Dubai fascinates me (both for the good and bad) but I've always thought that it looked kind of 'soulless'. Like my rich ass babylon suburb in city form. I'd be interested in visiting but NYC>Dubai (again taking into account the good and bad aspects of each).
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