#1
*i was told this would be better in this section* Hi there! So i have gotten better at using my MusicLab RealLPC VST. I can somewhat get the sound i want. I say somewhat because im trying to get a Pop Punk kind of sound with the guitar but i just cant get it.

I am trying to get a sound like this http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Pop-Punk-Lesson/

But no matter what i do i just cant achieve it. What i do is i load up my EEG on its clean setting. (no effects) and i use Amplitube 3 as the amp,overdrive,etc.
Ive used Marshall JCM slash, tweaked the treble mid and etc, tried with overdrive distortion and more. But i cant get that sound :/ I made the tone of the guitar to drop D and ive basically done all i can think of.

I am still a newbie so im sure im missing something or miss configuring something.
Any help on what amps,distortion,or just settings in general i can use/should use to get this sound would be very much appreciated!

Here is the closest i have gotten to that sound: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/14tbbbyxb940tbk/Pop+Punk.wav

I feel like this a really just a lack of experience thing. So i really hope someone can help me with my dilemma c:
#2
You need some more bass, you need to double track your guitar parts, and you need to stop using amplitube 'cause even if you're good you'll not get a good tone out of it.

I suggest you reading the amp sims sticky and checking out LePou HyBrit, possibly bx_rockrax pro if you're willing to drop some cash on it.
#3
Okay i shall look into those. Although what do you mean by double track? Like i said im still new so forgive me cx
#4
Double tracking is when you play the same part twice and them pan them apart. It makes the guitar sound far more full and punchy.
#5
Ah okay. I will do that from now on. So my problem in reaching the tone i want is Amplitube its self? I just wont get that pop punk sound no matter what i do with it? Okay. Any other things i should look for? Certain types of overdrives,distortions? Settings? Just trying to cover all my bases.
#6
Okay. So ive took some advice of people off the forums. I got a diffrent cabinet then the one Amplitube provides. and double tracked my guitar. But i still cant get that pop punk sound :/ What am i missing? Here is what i have currently

My Punk Sound: http://www.mediafire.com/listen/k6hdfx4cmyonrpd/gitty+j_3.wav

The Punk Sound im trying to get: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Pop-Punk-Lesson/
#7
Well for one using a midi instrument isn't going to get you the sound you really want. I only just noticed that this was part of your set up.
#8
Quote by ChemicalFire
Well for one using a midi instrument isn't going to get you the sound you really want.
And why in that world would that be?
#9
Because most of them sound awful and lack the variance of attack that you'll need to get an accurate tone match? Listen to both clips side to side, the attack pattern of the midi version is going to have a negative effect on the tone.

I think we can all agree that part of the tone is in the fingers? Well the adverse is true when there are not fingers involved.

Sure you will be able to get something approximating a pop punk tone, but it's never going to sound as good as an actual guitar. The best you can really do is damage control in this instance. A Cab sim other than the mud trains of amplitube will probably do you a massive favour in this instance.
Last edited by ChemicalFire at Nov 9, 2014,
#10
Quote by ChemicalFire
Because most of them sound awful and lack the variance of attack that you'll need to get an accurate tone match? Listen to both clips side to side, the attack pattern of the midi version is going to have a negative effect on the tone.
That's because of lazy midi programming.

The dynamics in that clip are all the same, the strings are plucked all at the same time...
Though it's not like you couldn't get something sounding good if you spend some time programming the part.

Couple examples...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqsPSdkWH0U
http://www.orangetreesamples.com/evolution-electric-guitar-strawberry
#11
You know I normally shun away from this fake stuff, but I took a listen at a youtube clip and I have to (sadly) agree with Spambot.

This sounds real legit, and I'm not easily pleased in that.

If anything it sounds too clean for guitar (not enough string noise and little scruffy noises), but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

That being said, it sounds more like a real guitar through something like an AXE FX, then a guitar through an amp, but imo it's roughly 90% there.

Chemicalfire
I am in the same boat, but check this one out, it really seems to be something else.

edit;
^^those comments are my review of the plugin, and not your specific example .

To the TS;

Already has been posted but double tracking will make so much difference. It's pretty much essential, since we also hear things in stereo, this gives it so much more depth.

I would even make a case that a double tracked shit amp can sound more legit and 'professional' than a good amp recorded once. The sound will be worse yes, but in the mix it will sound fuller.

Take note that duplicating one recording and panning does not work. It's exactly the small imperfections in timing and sound that makes the mind organize the sound as true stereo.

For example a chorus pedal/fx creates time variations and small pitch detuning. Although it's the algorithmic linear oscillation that makes it sound as what we come to known as chorus and not a double tracked guitar, but you can recognize the sound getting more fat and full.
Last edited by xxdarrenxx at Nov 10, 2014,