#1
Hi,

Looking for some advice on a tube amp under £350 (works out as about $550?). Looking for something that I can play both over a drummer and at home without having to crank it too high. I can possibly stretch the budget a little bit, so this amount doesn't includes cabs if we're going for heads as I can get a good enough one for now and upgrade in a few months.

I currently have an LTD M100 fitted with SD JB and Jazz. I've also got a Harmonix big metal muff pedal - I'm hoping to upgrade the pedal situation over christmas too.

I play alot of thrash, metal, and alternative but would like something that can put out pretty cleans; Anthrax, Metallica, Bad Brains, Suicidal Tendencies, Faith No More, Misfits, Fugazi - that sort of inspired stuff.

Based in the UK. Will go second hand if a good deal.
Last edited by Morzor at Nov 22, 2014,
#2
Where are you located. Look at Jet City Amps
Guitars:
PRS Custom 24
Gibson Les Paul 60's Tribute
85' MIJ Strat
97' Snakepit Les Paul
LP Traditional 1960 Zebra
MIJ Tele
MIA Strat

Amps:
Silver Jubilee 2525
Peavey Ultra 112
Jet City JCA50H
66' Bassman
Pink Paisley Princeton RV
74' Vibro Champ
#3
Quote by red.guitar
Where are you located. Look at Jet City Amps


Oops, UK.
#4
At that price point I'd be looking for second hand but you'll have to budget for maybe a new set of valves too.

If going new, around that price I'd be looking at a Marshall DSL, a Laney Ironheart or Peavey 6505+ 112 (bit of a stretch, sorry).....Or a dark terror (not played one of those)

All the above will do what you are after well

Personally, if you want it to play nicely out and at home, the Marshall JVM is over your budget but worth a look on account of its excellent master volume (sounds better than the 1w input of my IRT).
The DSL is pretty good at low volume, the 6505+ 112 is probably the bottom of the three I recommend for low volume playing but it is by no means bad at low volume, it just packs a punch still with it being closed back.
I'm sure an EQ in the loop would help fine tune them all. Key thing to remember is that your low volume setting swill need tweaking once you turn em up.

Go play some and have fun - are you close to any of the big retailers?
#5
Check out Jet City on Thomman could buy a small giggable rig , that sounds good for that amount.
I'm an owner of a couple of the JC amps and I really like them. Also Thomman are quality at shipping to the UK
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#6
jet city if the cleans are good enough
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jet city if the cleans are good enough


Think it's going to be a JCA. The JCA100HDM looks amazing, but the 50H seems to do the job for £150 less, not to mention I'll probably never need to go to 100w.

I think it's now between the JCA50H, Laney LH50 or Laney Ironheart 30 combo (60H if I can find one cheap enough)..

Any thoughts on from this anyone?
#8
The JCA50h is a nice amp, do you have a cab?
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#9
I haven't tried the Laney, but I love my jet city. You guy's get crazy deals on them over there as well. You can check out some tunes on my bands FB page (link in sig) if you wanna hear what the cleans sound like.

Edit: I should also mention that the real benefit of getting the 100 watter over the 50 watter is for the fact that the 100 watter will have more clean headroom. You can push it harder before the clean channel starts to get distorted. It might be something to keep in mind, if cleans are really important to you. Like I said before, I have no issues getting what I think is an acceptable clean tone outta my 50 watter.
Guitars:
PRS Custom 24
Gibson Les Paul 60's Tribute
85' MIJ Strat
97' Snakepit Les Paul
LP Traditional 1960 Zebra
MIJ Tele
MIA Strat

Amps:
Silver Jubilee 2525
Peavey Ultra 112
Jet City JCA50H
66' Bassman
Pink Paisley Princeton RV
74' Vibro Champ
Last edited by red.guitar at Nov 23, 2014,
#10
Quote by red.guitar
I haven't tried the Laney, but I love my jet city. You guy's get crazy deals on them over there as well. You can check out some tunes on my bands FB page (link in sig) if you wanna hear what the cleans sound like.

Edit: I should also mention that the real benefit of getting the 100 watter over the 50 watter is for the fact that the 100 watter will have more clean headroom. You can push it harder before the clean channel starts to get distorted. It might be something to keep in mind, if cleans are really important to you. Like I said before, I have no issues getting what I think is an acceptable clean tone outta my 50 watter.



Just wanting to point out the 100HDM sounds a bit different to the 50. Still sounds good though.
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
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#11
True! Its also a hair more expensive I believe.
Guitars:
PRS Custom 24
Gibson Les Paul 60's Tribute
85' MIJ Strat
97' Snakepit Les Paul
LP Traditional 1960 Zebra
MIJ Tele
MIA Strat

Amps:
Silver Jubilee 2525
Peavey Ultra 112
Jet City JCA50H
66' Bassman
Pink Paisley Princeton RV
74' Vibro Champ
#12
Quote by red.guitar
True! Its also a hair more expensive I believe.


The 50H is £229, 100H is £300 and the 100HDM is £370. They're all good prices it's just a case of asking myself is it worth the extra £141 (about $250?) for the depth control and 100w option.
#13
Quote by Morzor
The 50H is £229, 100H is £300 and the 100HDM is £370. They're all good prices it's just a case of asking myself is it worth the extra £141 (about $250?) for the depth control and 100w option.



Different transformers, plus switchable wattage!
Bass Gear:

Mensinger: Speesy
Fender Precision 1989 (CIJ Rosewood)
Fender Steve Harris (CIJ)
Lakland J Sonic 5
Epiphone Explorer
Maruszczyk (custom) Jake

Ashdown CTM 100
#15
Quote by Morzor
Think it's going to be a JCA. The JCA100HDM looks amazing, but the 50H seems to do the job for £150 less, not to mention I'll probably never need to go to 100w.

I think it's now between the JCA50H, Laney LH50 or Laney Ironheart 30 combo (60H if I can find one cheap enough)..

Any thoughts on from this anyone?


I've only tried the jet city out of those 3. the lower wattage lionhearts I tried were pretty nice but I'm not sure how close the higher wattage one is (though I've heard good things, I think). A lot more vintage-sounding than the jet city, though.

Quote by Morzor
The 50H is £229, 100H is £300 and the 100HDM is £370. They're all good prices it's just a case of asking myself is it worth the extra £141 (about $250?) for the depth control and 100w option.


I haven't tried the others but for me the price difference was enough to make me take the 50 watt version Granted- I hadn't tried it first, so I basically wanted it to be as cheap as possible in case I didn't like it. But that's a pretty big price difference for what's (almost) the same thing.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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