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Speakon Outputs on Amps: All 1/4" Combos?

For all of the amps that have a speakon output for speakers, are of the the jacks quarter inch/speakon combination connectors, or are there some where you can't plug in a quarter inch jack?
#2
No, speakons and 1/4 phone jacks aren't actually the same size. They're close, but not quite.
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No, speakons and 1/4 phone jacks aren't actually the same size. They're close, but not quite.



I'm referring to the speakon combo connectors that you can fit both speakon and 1/4" cables into. As seen on the Neutrik website, they are "2 pole combination of speakON socket and 1/4" jack receptacle"

An example on an amp is the Little Mark III Head. The description in the manual under OUTPUTS says "SPEAKER OUT speakon/1/4” combo, 1/4”"

I'm just wondering if all amps that have speakon connectors have these hybrid/combo type connectors.

Thanks
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Somebody made a proprietary speaker connector when 1/4" jacks have worked for half a century?

That's some Apple bullshit.
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^ nah for the higher wattage in bass amps they can be useful. i see them a lot on bass amps. very rarely on guitar amps.
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I don't think I've ever seen speakons on a guitar amp. Well, it's overkill isn't it? Bass amps are a different story because they are often as powerful as the PA.
Bubbs, speakons are for high current applications like PA's and bass amps. Places where using the wrong cable can be disastrous, phono outputs are ill advised. Speakon would actually be a good idea on tube amps but it's not done because guitarists are crazy conservative and would say things like, "1/4" jacks have worked for half a century."

To answer your question, TS - no, not all speakons will take a phono plug.
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I don't think I've ever seen speakons on a guitar amp. Well, it's overkill isn't it? Bass amps are a different story because they are often as powerful as the PA.
Bubbs, speakons are for high current applications like PA's and bass amps. Places where using the wrong cable can be disastrous, phono outputs are ill advised. Speakon would actually be a good idea on tube amps but it's not done because guitarists are crazy conservative and would say things like, "1/4" jacks have worked for half a century."

To answer your question, TS - no, not all speakons will take a phono plug.



Thank you Sir. I thought not.

In comparison to my above Mark bass example. I found the Markbass Bass Multiamp S and in the manual it doesn't specify that the connector is for both speakon cables and 1/4" in comparison to their other amps that do. I wonder why they choose to use some with the hybrids and some with not?
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No idea. I'd guess it's got more to do with what was available from their supplier at the time, rather than any functional reasons. Or it could simply be an oversight in the manual.
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No idea. I'd guess it's got more to do with what was available from their supplier at the time, rather than any functional reasons. Or it could simply be an oversight in the manual.


Probably a little bit of both.
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Quote by Cathbard
I don't think I've ever seen speakons on a guitar amp. Well, it's overkill isn't it? Bass amps are a different story because they are often as powerful as the PA.
Bubbs, speakons are for high current applications like PA's and bass amps. Places where using the wrong cable can be disastrous, phono outputs are ill advised. Speakon would actually be a good idea on tube amps but it's not done because guitarists are crazy conservative and would say things like, "1/4" jacks have worked for half a century."

To answer your question, TS - no, not all speakons will take a phono plug.


yeah. I've also heard (hearsay) that the high wattages in bass amps can actually produce enough air pressure to blow the regular 1/4" jacks out of the socket- whereas speakons are a locking connection.
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I think it has more to do with the way the wires are attached and the contact area of the connections. Speakons aren't soldered and are far more substantial. They'll take far more heat.
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That may well be so

I've heard a guy on another forum claim that he's seen regular 1/4" jacks blow out because of the extra power of bass amps. But As I said, it's hearsay on my part.
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yeah. I've also heard (hearsay) that the high wattages in bass amps can actually produce enough air pressure to blow the regular 1/4" jacks out of the socket- whereas speakons are a locking connection.



DAVE Mc.

I think that's right on.

I emailed Mark Bass:

"Are the speakon jacks on the SD 1200 Head just a speakon connectors, or are they speakon & quarter inch hybrid connectors? If hybrid, do all of your amps have hybrid speakon connectors?"

This was their reply:

"The SD 1200 doesn’t feature the Speakon Combo connectors for its speaker outputs, they are just speakon as they are better to handle its very high-power.

Other Markbass heads with lower power (as example Little Mark Tube, Little Mark, TTE500 and 800W version of these amps feat the Speakon Combo."
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