#1
I've tried to listen to music that has wah pedal incorporated into it and to me, it's like listening to someone scratching a chalkboard with their finger nails.

Everything from Hendrix to Clapton to Hammett to Slash to Pantera to Wylde to everything.
It just ruins the sound for me.

I also have a friend that insists on putting his wah pedal into everything he plays, which is also a reason why i even started remotely hating the wah pedal.

If someone can give me one not annoying example of wah use i would appreciate it.

This is one example of something i like guitar wise, but the wah kinda takes something away from it. It's not so harshly used here, very slow movements not quick back and forth movements.

http://youtu.be/1Tx2vypcFYQ?t=2m5s


What are some guitar effect you find useless or annoying etc..?
#2
Wah is not for everyone. I have one on my pedalboard that is used for 1 or 2 songs and that is it. When used tastefully Wah can add another sound to the music that can be good.

I don't care for sweep picking, but when used in the right context it can sound great
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#3
Carcass - Heartwork

They use the wah on as filter for the leads, I think it sounds fantastic. I think it was a Mike Amott trick as he continued to use it in Arch Enemy.
Tht should start right at the marked time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=B7lP30tSZF0#t=251
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#5
Almost didn't hear the wah in Heartwork, maybe very subtle, but cool song.

Yeah, i'm wondering if there even is a song with the use of Ring modulators in song context.
#6
No accounting for taste. If you don't like wah, don't listen to it. I think it is essential in very small doses. Some of my favorites that would not be the same without it. YMMV:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npb_TKEwjPs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEaRCAcfOEQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS_QM9H_nXk
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#7
Quote by Rensa
Almost didn't hear the wah in Heartwork, maybe very subtle, but cool song.

Yeah, i'm wondering if there even is a song with the use of Ring modulators in great context.


I think "Cheap Sunglasses" By ZZ Top features a quick sample of a RM'ed lick. I find use for those kinds of things, but most people wouldn't.

Along the same lines, this thing takes the cake: http://www.ehx.com/products/rtg
#8
Phenomenal lead off the same album, with wah:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLskmLOhA6Xv5H2vzjLYAH2MJd20v4IMyn&v=KpqEk_sITsI&feature=player_detailpage#t=166

I think Paul Gilbert did a few things with ring mod that were tasteful in small spots.
#9
I agree. I wont listen to music that have heavy WAH effects. Cant stand the sound

But does Michael Amott of Arch Enemy incorporate wah in his sound? Or is that some other effect
#10
I can’t think of any effect that I just outright dislike. Sure people use them questionably from time to time, but that can be said of guitars and amps, too.
#11
Atleast i've tried to listen to it, i guess it tires my ears as does heavy distortion. It has it's uses, but in my oppinion subtlety is the key.
#12
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I agree. I wont listen to music that have heavy WAH effects. Cant stand the sound

But does Michael Amott of Arch Enemy incorporate wah in his sound? Or is that some other effect

I think I read in interview that it was basically a pressed in wah, with nary any movement though, just as a filter. Kinda like EVH used flange.
#13
I've never really cared for ring modulators either.
And like anything else, wah can be great in moderation.
While I may like some of Kirk Hammett's playing, he uses the wah far far too much IMO.
Like Zakk Wylde may be a good player, he does the pinch harmonics far far too much to the point of I can't stand hearing him play.

May favorite wah work can be found here (No surprise to the forum regulars that I would post this):
(around 12:55 and 17:12; Theres a bit at around 13:29 or so that makes my hair stand on end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9J3myskBsE
#14
To every effect, there is a proper, skilled use.

After plugging into electric guitar in 2003, I JUST got my first wah a few days ago. I didn't feel a need for one, personally, until I started hearing a song in my head that absolutely required one.

Side note: in my shopping around, I was exposed to a technique I had no idea existed but should have anticipated. The dude depressed the wah all the way, struck the chord/notes and released the wah. Nifty!
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To every effect, there is a proper, skilled use.

After plugging into electric guitar in 2003, I JUST got my first wah a few days ago. I didn't feel a need for one, personally, until I started hearing a song in my head that absolutely required one.

Side note: in my shopping around, I was exposed to a technique I had no idea existed but should have anticipated. The dude depressed the wah all the way, struck the chord/notes and released the wah. Nifty!


Listen to 13:29 above.
He does that same sort of thing there.
Heel down, hit note, toe down. More or less.
#16
so let me get this straight. you hate wha because your friend uses one to much and I guess sucks at it to boot. any effect can suck if used poorly or to much. I love my wha but don't feel the need to constantly use it. if used with finesse the wha can be very expressive and sound awesome. great way to subtly change your tone when just clicked on and parked (see Michael Schenker).
#18
Quote by CodeMonk
Listen to 13:29 above.
He does that same sort of thing there.
Heel down, hit note, toe down. More or less.

Like I said, I should have been aware of it.

But in fairness, hearing & seeing it in a wah pedal demo makes it MUCH more obvious than in a song with all the various instruments and studio wizardry involved. The "AHA!" is instantaneous.
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#19
To each his own, I myself think most people who use chorus on their guitar use too much
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#20
I think wah sounds great when used to create spacey sounds, usually for a short moment to add interest. I've never been a huge fan of using wah for an entire tone (except for surfing with the alien). This video I feel makes great use of wah for some interesting phrasing, particularly in the first verse.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfDfGbsi3VU

And one of the coolest sounds I've ever heard at 7:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adV8-_hgL4g
#21
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And one of the coolest sounds I've ever heard at 7:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adV8-_hgL4g


Just to be clear, you're not referring to the octave stuff at like 7:49 right? Great use of a Wah elsewhere though.

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To each his own, I myself think most people who use chorus on their guitar use too much


+1. I've actually never really felt a need to have chorus modulation. If anything, I just use light vibrato with the index on C shapes.
#22
I never got around to be friends with a wah, but that may be because it doesn't fit my style and at my wah experience level it sounds like a piece of shit. Skilled use can make it sound pretty nice though, but Jimi Hendrix would have been my suggestion. If you don't like how he used it, then I don't know really.
#23
I'm also unimpressed by wah generally, but I have heard some cool uses. It's one of the effects that can be used to an actual great dramatic or tension effect (there's also a pretty cool part in Tool's "Vicarious"), but it seems to be mostly used for getting a weird shreddy sound that doesn't do anything for me.

My personal favourite is Anders Nystrom of Katatonia, there was a time he used it quite a bit, and he's pretty much the only one (together with some of John Petrucci's playing) that made me consider getting one. The solo in this song is my all-time favourite in this area, it's pretty simple but the wah (!) makes it sound incredibly emotional. (starts at 3:03 if you want to skip right away, but the whole song is beautiful)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG6XZGbLjgY
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#24
yeah, bad wah sucks really bad. But used right it can sound rad, just listen to the music
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#25
Good wah is good and bad wah is bad.
Who knew?

Seriously, what is this bullshit?
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#26
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Good wah is good and bad wah is bad.
Who knew?

Seriously, what is this bullshit?

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#27
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Just to be clear, you're not referring to the octave stuff at like 7:49 right? Great use of a Wah elsewhere though.


I'm pretty sure it's combination of a wah and octave.