#1
Hi all,
I built my first guitar about a month ago and did a pretty poor fretjob as well as not having enough neck angle for my guitar. Therefore I'm planning on buying a preslotted fretboard from Stewmac. But my question is, as my guitar is a one piece and I didn't give any neck angle , would it be possible to cut the fretboard in such a way that it essentially gives neck angle its self. For instance instead of the fretboard being flat on the bottom it would be at say a few degrees to compensate for no neck angle. Most of you will probably would probably say to give up and start again, but this being my first guitar I want to keep working on it till its good. Like I said above it is a one piece guitar so not a bolt on neck or or neck through.

Anyway thanks in advance
#2
It is not a practical way to do what you want. But if you can get a nice straight cut, it might work. But don't expect good results doing it that way
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#3
As you're taking the fretboard off wouldn't it be easier to take the material from the face of the neck rather than the new fretboard?
#4
Quote by xxxxChrisTxxxx
As you're taking the fretboard off wouldn't it be easier to take the material from the face of the neck rather than the new fretboard?

This would be my suggestion also
Or put a strat style bridge that does not require a neck angle
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#5
Its currently a tuneomatic style bridge and I guess if I plane it so its at an angle that would work, I guess it wouldn't also mess up the fretboard
#6
Quote by EpicGuitarGuy13
Its currently a tuneomatic style bridge and I guess if I plane it so its at an angle that would work, I guess it wouldn't also mess up the fretboard


It might. But you might also need to plane enough off that it would make the neck way too thin near the nut (be careful of headstock breakage). While I realize that this is your first guitar, I'd suggest that throwing more money after bad might STILL end up producing an unplayable guitar. You now know a LOT more than you did when you started; I'd be looking forward to your second attempt.

Rather than pick up a pre-slotted fretboard, you might even consider picking up a neck-through neck from Carvin (with fretboard and frets already there), splitting the body in half to produce two wings (you'd have to eliminate a bit of center section on both wings), and then glue those to the Carvin neck. That would salvage your guitar, give you an extremely playable neck and all the correct dimensions. http://www.carvinguitars.com/necks/guitarneckthrough.php
#7
Hmm theres definitely enough wood for the neck near the nut as its a very thick neck. And about getting a neck through, it's very tempting, however I do want to finish this guitar. As buying a preslotted fretboard isn't overly expensive, I reckon I will try to do the preslotted fretboard way first and have the neck through suggestion as a back up if all else fails. The only problem with getting a neckthrough is that I would have to redo all the grooves and finish etc - essentially rebuilding it . One question though, I went through the process of "ordering" a neck through piece from Carvin to see what the price would be but as Im from the UK it wouldn't let me order directly so it wouldn't tell me the price, so my question is what would the price be for a standard 6 string one - well the link below.

Thanks http://www.carvinworld.com/catalog/necks/index.php?model=nt6
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#8
That neck cost $219 in the USA so it would probably be $300ish for you in the UK
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#9
Hmm it is tempting but I have kept this guitar on a fairly low budget - around £150 British pounds, so changing the fretboard will only be a little more but thanks anyway .
#10
Quote by EpicGuitarGuy13
Hmm it is tempting but I have kept this guitar on a fairly low budget - around £150 British pounds, so changing the fretboard will only be a little more but thanks anyway .

Then put a strat style bridge on it and you will not need to worry about any neck angle and it will be a $20 fix at most
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#11
Cant you sink the bridge in the body and eliminate the need for angled neck?
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#12
I tried that but without specialist tools I could only go so far. It works so far but if I add an extra bit of angle it will do the job properly. I need to change the fretboard anyway so it was kinda part of the idea to do both bits in one.
#13
Quote by gorkyporky
Cant you sink the bridge in the body and eliminate the need for angled neck?


^ Just recess the bridge and learn for next time:



Edit: Do you not have a router?
#14
Nope that's what I meant all I did to "recess" the bridge was drill the holes deeper so the bridge part was basically dead flush with the body of the guitar rather than say half a cm higher than the body. And yes I managed to successfully drill out the pickup cavities without a router!
#15
if you route out that channel like in the pic above, the neck does not need an angle.
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#16
Hmm okay, the only problem is I wasn't really planning on buying a router because I'm pretty short on money
#17
Quote by EpicGuitarGuy13
Hmm okay, the only problem is I wasn't really planning on buying a router because I'm pretty short on money

If you have a sharp chisel you can remove the material that way and get good results. But you must make sure the chisel is sharp and take your time.

Set the bridge in place and trace around it leaving a small space so there is some wiggle room around the bridge.


You don't know someone who has tools (router) you could borrow for a few minutes?
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#18
Quote by EpicGuitarGuy13
Hmm okay, the only problem is I wasn't really planning on buying a router because I'm pretty short on money

It's either that, a strat vibrato (which would need a router to make work anyway) or an unplayable guitar.
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#19
I would also need to route out the tailpiece of the tuneomatic unless I used string through which I don't really want to
#20
Quote by EpicGuitarGuy13
I would also need to route out the tailpiece of the tuneomatic unless I used string through which I don't really want to


No you wouldnt. Not unless you rout the bridge so deep that the strings arnt being pressed downward at all by the tailpiece. I hvae done a ton of recessed Tuneomatic bridges without recessing the tailpiece.