#1
Early, because I wasn't really ready to post this, as I always have tons of modification plas and I don't usually like to post a NGD until after it's finished. I've had some sneaky suspicions about some things, thought, so I did some research.

It's a 1987 Stratocaster, in keeping with a little fetish I have, it's an MIJ. Those of you who know me are well aware with my affair with MIJ/CIJ Fenders and their copies (Tokai especially). At least, so I thought. Then when I was modding around I noticed some things were not right...

o The Truss Rod adjustment was in the heel, not the headstock
o It had an 8-screw 1 ply pickguard
o It had a stamp saddles, not the blocks like they used in the E-series Strats
o They felt like Vintage Frets?
o No Skunk Stripe?
o Gloss maple instead of the E-series unfinished?

Now, I suspected a Partscaster because the guy had swapped for Gotoh tuners and put two roller string trees on instead of the standard single t-style. Also, he lost a saddle and put a block one on the E-string, but that's a small matter.

I continued further by swapping the pickguard for a 3-ply Tortoise Shell one and swapping the pickups out for Fat-50's. Another thing struck me as I opened the thing up; three single coil routes instead of the HSS that most MIJ's are?







Well, I went looking around and found these:
http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?db=&topic_number=667536
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.blackman4/models.htm

Opened up the neck pocket, and sure enough:


ST-362V

I stumbled my way into an 87' MIJ 1957 Reissue. And to think, I was considering re-painting it! The odd thing I'm finding about that one block saddle on the low E is that it makes it ring out heavier than the others just slightly, which makes it fantastic for surf!

The other thing I did was take a die to a Jazzmaster trem arm to make it fit. I like them better, as they reach all the way past the neck pickups where I do most of my freehand strumming.

I think I'm going to put that white pickguard back on...


EDIT:

Quote by Ippon
Congrats!

It's a '62 RI. The '57 RI has a Maple fretboard, different neck heel markings, and 7-screw PG.




Not sure what to think now, several googles tell me it's a 57', but I know Ippon knows his stuff. Hmm.


EDIT AGAIN!:


Got email back from Fender. It's a 62' RI. Good thing, too, because I was wondering why it wasn't a V shape!
Last edited by JustRooster at Dec 28, 2014,
#2
a 57 reissue with a rosewood fingerboard are you sure? nice looking axe. hmmmm.... didn't someone point out recently that single coils pickups hum and aren't any good. oh well just replace them them LOL. enjoy
#3
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a 57 reissue with a rosewood fingerboard are you sure? nice looking axe. hmmmm.... didn't someone point out recently that single coils pickups hum and aren't any good. oh well just replace them them LOL. enjoy



Yeah, all the 57' and 62' RI's they made between 84'-87' were Rosewood. Historically, they didn't put Rosewood on Strats until 1959 if I remember correctly. I suppose they took their creative liberty with it. Look up the ST-362V in google and you'll find they all have rosewood.
#4
Quote by JustRooster
Early, because I wasn't really ready to post this, as I always have tons of modification plas and I don't usually like to post a NGD until after it's finished. I've had some sneaky suspicions about some things, thought, so I did some research.

It's a 1987 Stratocaster, in keeping with a little fetish I have, it's an MIJ. Those of you who know me are well aware with my affair with MIJ/CIJ Fenders and their copies (Tokai especially). At least, so I thought. Then when I was modding around I noticed some things were not right...

o The Truss Rod adjustment was in the heel, not the headstock
o It had an 8-screw 1 ply pickguard
o It had a stamp saddles, not the blocks like they used in the E-series Strats
o They felt like Vintage Frets?
o No Skunk Stripe?
o Gloss maple instead of the E-series unfinished?

Now, I suspected a Partscaster because the guy had swapped for Gotoh tuners and put two roller string trees on instead of the standard single t-style. Also, he lost a saddle and put a block one on the E-string, but that's a small matter.

I continued further by swapping the pickguard for a 3-ply Tortoise Shell one and swapping the pickups out for Fat-50's. Another thing struck me as I opened the thing up; three single coil routes instead of the HSS that most MIJ's are?







Well, I went looking around and found these:
http://www.fenderforum.com/forum.html?db=&topic_number=667536
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/john.blackman4/models.htm

Opened up the neck pocket, and sure enough:


ST-362V

I stumbled my way into an 87' MIJ 1957 Reissue. And to think, I was considering re-painting it! The odd thing I'm finding about that one block saddle on the low E is that it makes it ring out heavier than the others just slightly, which makes it fantastic for surf!

The other thing I did was take a die to a Jazzmaster trem arm to make it fit. I like them better, as they reach all the way past the neck pickups where I do most of my freehand strumming.

I think I'm going to put that white pickguard back on...

Congrats!

It's a '62 RI. The '57 RI has a Maple fretboard, different neck heel markings, and 7-screw PG.

#5
Hnggggggggg.

Looks awesome.
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#6
Quote by Ippon
Congrats!

It's a '62 RI. The '57 RI has a Maple fretboard, different neck heel markings, and 7-screw PG.




Yup. My '57 had a maple board with the skunkie.


Anywho, nice score Rooster. sweet guitars them MIJs
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#7
omg i love it

**** man i get so jelly of your strats
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#10
Red strats with tortoise-shell pickguards are delightful.

Gorgeous find, here's hoping it sounds as gorgeous as it plays! Also you're feeding my internal conflict about whether to play my strat or my Carvin more.
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#11
Good that you followed up with Fender.

Looks sexy, specially with that PG . Does it have the notch for the truss rod adjustment on the neck heel?

BTW, the MIJ '62 RIs I had came with different string trees and logo/decal. Now I'm confused.
#12
It's in the heel.

I'm finding out that there's a difference between the ST-362V and the ST-62. I couldn't tell you what it is. I think there's an E-series-esque 62 RI that would be akin to the current 60's Player Strat, and the ST-62 is more like the actual 62' AVRI.

I keep finding 62's that are a bit different. I've found a handful of others that have the same logo/string trees as mine, which I assumed were trees the owner swapped out, guess not?
Last edited by JustRooster at Dec 28, 2014,
#13
sweet
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#16
Swapped out the scratchy 5-way and rewired it to be like the G&L PTB system. I put the white guard back on after thinking about it. I'll throw up another photo soon
#17
noooooooo tortoise shell looks a hundred billion times better than white on strats
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#18
The tortise shell looks great on red I will keep that in mind for my strat. Happy NGD when can we hear some tones.
#19


I dunno if I'm too fond the the Tortoise, honestly. My thoughts now are drifting towards a mint to make it look more correct, or going with an anodized gold...
#20
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

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Log off and play yer guitar!

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#21
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I dunno if I'm too fond the the Tortoise, honestly. My thoughts now are drifting towards a mint to make it look more correct, or going with an anodized gold...

Go Mint, 3-ply, with the proper truss rod adjustment notch:



#22
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The Japanese flag on my MIJ Strat? That sounds pretty darn tempting.
#23
Ees ver rrrrock an' rrrroll, meester.
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#24
jake - '62s should have a mint guard like the one on ippon's post above.

gotoh tuners and those string trees look like stock MIJ fare from the time. they may be original if they were out of the RI trees/tuners at the moment. it wouldn't surprise me at all.

interesting color, dakota red that hasn't faded?

that's a hell of a nice find. if you decide to flip it let me just say dibs right now.
Last edited by gregs1020 at Dec 31, 2014,
#25
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interesting color, dakota red that hasn't faded?



It's an 80's Fender. With all this lacquer I'm sure I could use it to shield my vital organs from a nuclear blast.
#27
Quote by JustRooster

Thoughts?

honestly i love it.

but if you do that to my 62 RI i'm going to kick you in the balls.
#29
It's not an ST-62, it's an E-series ST-362V. Essentially the same as the Classic Player 60's Strat Fender makes today. Makes me go "hmmmmmmm...."


If do Black into Red, I'll probably throw that Tortoise Shell back on.
Last edited by JustRooster at Jan 4, 2015,
#30
Happy NGD. I have the MiJ 57RI from the mid 80s and it´s one of the best Strats I´ve ever played.
#32
Nice!

Let me know if you ever don't want it anymore...
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#33
Nice
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#34
Looks wicked now rooster. Totes jelly.
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#36
That looks so nice, rooster.
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#37
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