#1
I want to play both my guitar and my mp3 player through my television soundbar.

I am using a Zoom G3 multi-fx unit which outputs through a 1/4" output. There is also a stereo output and an XLR output but I don't have any clue what to do with those.
I also have an mp3 player that has an 1/8" headphone output.
I want to send the zoom output and mp3 output to a small mixer with volume controls like this one
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHMX400?siid=38044&gclid=CKz4tfHagsMCFepAMgod8hkA6g
And then from there to the soundbar. The only input I can use on the soundbar is RCA.

I think RCA is the same as 1/4" but I'm not sure, and 'm concerned about signal levels. I'm worried that the output signal from the mixer won't be strong enough for the soundbar. I guess it could be too strong as well, but I think the volume controls would be able to solve that problem.

So I think I can buy that mixer and also buy a cable which converts 1/4" to RCA and then I'll be set. I already have an 1/8th to 1/4" adapter cable for the mp3 player and a few guitar cables.
So am I thinking correctly?
#3
I'm just looking for a temporary solution while i save money for a proper amp. I've had enough of trying to get good tone on the cheap. My soundbar has better sound quality than the speakers that I had been using.
#4
The G3 is a great unit, but as you're considering spending money on using it the way you want to, why not spend that money on a G1on instead?

It does everything the G3 does (and has all the same effects, amp sims etc), but also has an aux input so you could plug your MP3 player and headphones straight into it.

For only £40 (don't know US cost, but it won't be a lot), IMO it's a great investment.

EDIT: zzsounds does the G1on for $49.99 (they also have a B stock one for $42.95). Go here: http://www.zzounds.com/item--ZOMG1ON
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Last edited by GaryBillington at Jan 7, 2015,
#5
This..

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHXENTX502

Zoom output to line input 1. (or even stereo outs to line input 2/3).

Mp3 player to CD/Tape in using this..

http://www.zzounds.com/item--HOSCMR2

L/R Main outputs from mixer to soundbar using this..

http://www.zzounds.com/item--HOSCPR20

The first mixer you showed will only connect one side of your mp3's stereo sound to one side of your soundbar. Unless you bought two of them.
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#6
Quote by JimPlaysGuitar
This..

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHXENTX502

Zoom output to line input 1. (or even stereo outs to line input 2/3).

Mp3 player to CD/Tape in using this..

http://www.zzounds.com/item--HOSCMR2

L/R Main outputs from mixer to soundbar using this..

http://www.zzounds.com/item--HOSCPR20

The first mixer you showed will only connect one side of your mp3's stereo sound to one side of your soundbar. Unless you bought two of them.



Thank you for being so specific. I didn't realize that I would lose the stereo signal, but the size and cost difference between the mixers might outweigh my desire for stereo sound. At least you've given me a heads-up and I can think this over.

@Garybillington - I wish the G3 had an aux input. it would simplify this situation. I can see your logic in suggesting the g1on, but I think that I'd be happier with the G3 in the long run.


My concerns about levels and connections seem to have been answered. Thanks everyone.
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Quote by paul.housley.7

@Garybillington - I wish the G3 had an aux input. it would simplify this situation. I can see your logic in suggesting the g1on, but I think that I'd be happier with the G3 in the long run

This is why I have both - the G3 is on my board for gigging etc. The G1on is there for when I need to practice quietly at home.

The G1on is so cheap you can't go wrong
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#8
Quote by paul.housley.7
I am using a Zoom G3 multi-fx unit which outputs through a 1/4" output. There is also a stereo output and an XLR output but I don't have any clue what to do with those.
I also have an mp3 player that has an 1/8" headphone output.
I want to send the zoom output and mp3 output to a small mixer with volume controls like this one
http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHMX400?siid=38044&gclid=CKz4tfHagsMCFepAMgod8hkA6g
And then from there to the soundbar. The only input I can use on the soundbar is RCA.



Quote by paul.housley.7
I think RCA is the same as 1/4"


the physical connector is not the same, you'd need some type of converter if you want to plug the rca into a 1/4" jack.

Quote by paul.housley.7
I'm concerned about signal levels. I'm worried that the output signal from the mixer won't be strong enough for the soundbar. I guess it could be too strong as well, but I think the volume controls would be able to solve that problem.


the signal from the mixer will be appropriate for running a signal to the 'soundbar'. the signal from the mixer will be pretty much the same type/intensity of signal you get from an MP3 player.

Quote by paul.housley.7
So I think I can buy that mixer and also buy a cable which converts 1/4" to RCA and then I'll be set. I already have an 1/8th to 1/4" adapter cable for the mp3 player and a few guitar cables.
So am I thinking correctly?


yeah, it would work. personally i'd prefer an actual mixer, i got a cheap behringer 10 channel mixer for under 100 bucks. the advantage is that you have far more flexibility and better control of inputs.

for example, the mixer you listed doesn't even tell you what input it wants. sure they are 1/4" jacks but are they expecting a passive signal or a line level signal? are they balanced TRS jacks or unbalanced TS? it has no master control, headphone out, and only has one output. there are not very many applications you can use this for.

but something like this for 20 more bucks

http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHXENTX502

is still not that great but at least you have RCA throughput, line AND mic inputs, headphone capability, stereo capability, and a master control.

personally i would prefer something with more XLR inputs to make it more flexible. if you are going to bother with a mixer then it should at least do what a mixer does else you will constantly trying to operate around it's limitations.

of course you can do what you want, and your idea will work, but your solution is like buying a bike when a car is what is needed. you might be able to use the bike for this situation, but a car will get you all around town and be usable in more situations.
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#9
The problem has been resolved. I got a Mackie Mix5 which looks like a clone of that Behringer 502. (I wonder if they're all built in the same factory in China?)
Seems to have all the same specs. It does what I wanted it to do.

When I was unpacking the Mackie I had a moment of insight. I thought to myself "the microphone inputs aren't just for vocals!"
I thought they were just for vocals. I hear the word "microphone" and the only other words that come to mind are lead singer, backup singer and occasionally karaoke.
So.... I guess you put a microphone in front of your cabinet? Is it common to use more than one microphone at a time?
#10
Quote by paul.housley.7
The problem has been resolved. I got a Mackie Mix5 which looks like a clone of that Behringer 502. (I wonder if they're all built in the same factory in China?)
Seems to have all the same specs. It does what I wanted it to do.

When I was unpacking the Mackie I had a moment of insight. I thought to myself "the microphone inputs aren't just for vocals!"
I thought they were just for vocals. I hear the word "microphone" and the only other words that come to mind are lead singer, backup singer and occasionally karaoke.
So.... I guess you put a microphone in front of your cabinet? Is it common to use more than one microphone at a time?


i in a 3 piece, when i recorded practices i used 3 amp with a mic a piece, ran a mic on the bass, two overheads on drums, a mic on the kick and a mic on the snare (and another input was used for the PA with 3 vocal mics going into that). so that is about a dozen mics.

you can also multi mic a cabinet, but one mic is enough if you are just recording the guitar.
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