#1
Hi, everyone,

so I guess I'm an intermediate player, I've been casually playing guitar for like 5-6 years now, and I've been wondering about getting an amp upgrade.

I have an Epiphone Les Paul 100 and my current amp is an Epiphone Studio 15R - it's a 32W solidstate. I got it 5 years ago from a ~120$ pack that also included a guitar strap, jack, gigbag, headphones and tuner. I don't have any pedals yet, although I consider the possibility of buying a multi-effects thingy in the foreseeable future.

Mainly i play stuff like Alice in Chains, Guns 'n Roses, Nirvana, also some Metallica and occasionally some blues.

I don't want to seem cheap, but I don't want to spend too much money on a new amp (let's cap it at say 200-300$). According to what I've been reading on the interwebz, tube amps are generally better, but they are also considerably pricier - and i take it they require some maintenance, like changing the tubes every now and then? Not a big fan of that

I'd appreciate your advice on this, thanks everyone

P.S.: Not an English native speaker, please go easy on my English
#3
Is that like a hybrid? I thought amp-wise it was all very black and white, you know it's either tube amp or solidstate, didn't realize there was a middle ground. As you can probably tell by now, I don't know a whole lot about amps and stuff xD
#4
Peavey Vyper 60 tube. Used will be less than $300. Hybrid modelling amp. You should get a controller thrown in for that too.
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#5
Quote by jorg.28


According to what I've been reading on the interwebz, tube amps are generally better, but they are also considerably pricier - and i take it they require some maintenance, like changing the tubes every now and then? Not a big fan of that


Not necessarily, I hear that jazz players tend to like solid state amps, because they don't overdrive when turned louder or something. For black metal, anything goes as long as it sounds awful enough.

For classic rock, you'll want that gnarly, punchy tube overdrive sound, and personally I find it more important for blues than anything else, because blues makes the best use of the tube amp's dynamics. You don't have to change your amp settings or use a footswitch, going from clean to crunch is right in your fingertips.

Generally, a tube amp's attack, punch, response, warmth is essential for blues at least how I play it.

Beware though, the first time you play a tube amp you may be put off because it sounds too harsh or scratchy. But once you get used to it, I find it difficult to go back to a SS' poor dynamics.

Pricing is a problem of course. I'm not much into classic rock, but for blues I rather like my Laney Cub-10. Be warned though, it's a minimalist one-channel amp with only tone, volume, and gain controls, and that's it. To get some actual overdrive, you'll have to raise the volume. I believe most cheap tube amps are pretty minimalist.

As for exchanging tubes, I have two tube amps and one hybrid for years, and never changed a tube yet, they still work fine.

Laney Cub-10 demo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-CKwzsmvkU
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#6
Right, of course there are hybrid amps, SS amps that use a tube for overdrive. That may be more like what you're looking for. Sweeter overdrive but at reasonable price points.

I think the Vox Valvetronix series isn't bad.
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#7
Will look into it, it's a brave new world . Appreciate all the advice so far, guys!
#8
vypyr or jet city combo, jet city is the only amp i never had feedback problems with.
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#9
@ Right, of course there are hybrid amps, SS amps that use a tube for overdrive.

Not all Hybrids use this system. To name a couple, Marshall AVT uses Tube preamp and SS power amp. Vypyr uses SS Pre and All Tube Power amp. It's whatever floats your boat really.

I own both and love them equally. I just got a replacement All tube Bugera 333 too, and that works nice with pedals, as does the marshall. Try out different gear and see what works best for you. If you can't decide...BUY THEM ALL...lol. you can never have enough gear.
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#10
Thanks, everyone! I've been checking online for the amps (used) you mentioned, will get to the nearby music stores to try out whichever ones they got :P
#11
You could also find a Mk 1 Spider valve 1x12 or 2x12 in that budget. Not an awful amp and it is all tube.
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#12
Quote by TheStig1214
You could also find a Mk 1 Spider valve 1x12 or 2x12 in that budget. Not an awful amp and it is all tube.

No it is still a hybrid, but it is more tube than most because it does incorporate 1 preamp tube. But they are decent amps and I kinda of regret getting rid of my HD100
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#13
Quote by Robbgnarly
No it is still a hybrid, but it is more tube than most because it does incorporate 1 preamp tube. But they are decent amps and I kinda of regret getting rid of my HD100


My Spider Valve 212 had 2 12AX7 preamp tubes and 2 6L6 power tubes....
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#14
I play very similar music to you, I'd go for a Micro Terror and a Marshall 1x10 or 1x12 if you are keeping to that budget. No need for pedals and is a hybrid of good quality plus it has a few features which aren't included on other affordable tube amps.
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Quote by TheStig1214
My Spider Valve 212 had 2 12AX7 preamp tubes and 2 6L6 power tubes....

It has 1 12ax7 in the preamp the other is the phase inverter for the power tubes, but the tone/modeling is done by digital software, not tubes so it is indeed a hybrid amp. I had mine moded with the Strymon SVpre which actually adds another 12ax7 in the preamp and a selector for different levels of "tube push" and it makes the amp that much better
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#16
Quote by jorg.28
Is that like a hybrid? I thought amp-wise it was all very black and white, you know it's either tube amp or solidstate, didn't realize there was a middle ground. As you can probably tell by now, I don't know a whole lot about amps and stuff xD


yeah i think he was sort of taking a dig at blackstar there, rather than recommending it. but i could be wrong.

also fwiw the amp you currently have is 15W, 32W is the power consumption, not output.

what type(s) of music do you play and what's your budget?
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yeah i think he was sort of taking a dig at blackstar there, rather than recommending it. but i could be wrong.

also fwiw the amp you currently have is 15W, 32W is the power consumption, not output.

what type(s) of music do you play and what's your budget?


I play mostly Alice in Chains, Nirvana, Guns n' Roses, also some Metallica and AC/DC and stuff and occasionally blues. Let's say my budget is 200-300$
#18
thanks. you might struggle to get something tube which will do all of those tones with that kind of budget.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#19
Yeah, I'm starting to realize that :| which is why maybe I'll buy some pedals also in the not so distant future.
#20
Quote by jorg.28
Yeah, I'm starting to realize that :| which is why maybe I'll buy some pedals also in the not so distant future.

That's like buying a video game before buying the console. You can get a decent used amp for $300 (edit: depending on where in the world you are).
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