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What do you guys think is better and why Esp ltd or gibson les paul? Apart from the price as the gibson are nearly double in price .
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Its not a versus thread lots of people compare guitars from different brands
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"Gibson vs. Fender? are not allowed." "Esp ltd or gibson les paul" It is a vs thread. You've gotta be more specific, Theirs more than one gibson les paul model and more than one esp ltd model.
#5
I think it's a valid question.

Perhaps the biggest difference is the accessibility of the higher frets. the EC/Eclipse has a carved out cutaway which makes it much easier to reach those higher frets. Granted I sold my EC-1000 for a new amp, it's winning feature over the Les Paul was the higher fret access. I'm not a very big guy so trying to reach the higher frets is hard on a Les Paul. My roommate plays a Les Paul though and that has never been a problem with him.

tl;dr: If you have small hands the esp/ltd may be the better guitar for you.

If you have the opportunity to play both to compare and contrast, I think the decision would be clear pretty easily.
#6
Both of these brands make the Les Paul and the Eclipse in pretty much every possible price-range. Both ESP and Gibson maintain an identity as super-high end brands where cost is no limit, but provide a regular production line and a budget brand under a different name. You have to specify what models you are comparing, then we can help you. Examples of guitars worth comparing is the E-II Eclipse to a Les Paul Classic, or the LTD Deluxe to a Les Paul Studio as they're similar in price range (Europe).

Owning both a ESP Standard Series (equal to current E-II) and a Les Paul Deluxe and Standard (typical mid-range guitars), I can tell you they are very (very) different instruments, and not at all similar in feel or sound but perhaps slighty similar in looks due to sharing the single-cut design. They are not interchangeable instruments to me and many others, not withstanding the brand name, and the value of each depends entirely on what you are after.
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I live in the UK and I do like the look of the ESP LTD guitars but I was hoping they had other higher up models but can't find any other in the local shops , I am willing to spend up to £1700.00p that is why I am wondering if I should get a gibson. I started out over 15 years ago with an Epiphone Joe Perry Boneyard, I can honestly say it has been my best and only guitar I have ever wanted to played. Now I only want to add another guitar to my collection , The only point I would say is I love playing rock , classic but over the past few years I have been playing a lot of metal .
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look at the ESP line not the ESP/LTD
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look at the ESP line not the ESP/LTD
If they is another ESP line I don't think there in the uk I have looked at most of the top guitar sites in the uk and its all ESP LTD
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Most sites (even here in America) don't carry much besides the LTD line. Most likely you'll have to go to an authorized dealer and/or track a standard ESP down to see what you can find.
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If they is another ESP line I don't think there in the uk I have looked at most of the top guitar sites in the uk and its all ESP LTD

Yeah, there is way more than the LTD line there is the new E-II line which was the ESP standard line just a few years ago but they changed the name. These are MIJ guitars and are really nice nice
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Quote by dazzzer30
I live in the UK and I do like the look of the ESP LTD guitars but I was hoping they had other higher up models but can't find any other in the local shops , I am willing to spend up to £1700.00p that is why I am wondering if I should get a gibson. I started out over 15 years ago with an Epiphone Joe Perry Boneyard, I can honestly say it has been my best and only guitar I have ever wanted to played. Now I only want to add another guitar to my collection , The only point I would say is I love playing rock , classic but over the past few years I have been playing a lot of metal .


Rich Tone Music in Sheffield carries the E-II Series. I am not sure how much of it they have in stock though. After ESP decided to discontinue the Standard Series and replace it with the indentical-in-all-but-name E-II-line, most of the stores that used to carry them (including Thomann) only seem to stock the LTD-line.

£1700 should get you any E-II Eclipse. The series include versions with Seymour Duncan-pickups, which are more suitable for rock than the EMG's they usually come with. The Eclipse is a much thinner body than the Les Paul (though they have done full thickness versions too), the cut-away is a bit deeper, and it has a contour at the back. Sadly, the Eclipse I seems to have been replaced entirely by the Eclipse II in the E-II-line, which does not have the 4-control Les Paul-layout, but rather three in line more like a Strat. (It was only Europe that got the Eclipse I in recent years AFAIK, which is worth noting if any American decides to join the discussion here.)
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