Computer Thread "Have You Tried Turning It Off And On Again?" Edition

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Welcome to the newest edition of the computer thread!

Here is a place where we can all gather to talk about the newest hardware, operating systems, gaming systems, networking technology, and just about anything computer related. All are welcome to discuss anything computer related; whether you have a question about building your first system, upgrading your hardware, 'will my computer run this' type questions, or even if you are just interested in learning more about these wonderful machines. If you are a complete computer noob or have been using them for decades, you will find no better place on this site to talk about them than here.


Useful Links
Here are some resources you can use to help yourself with computer knowledge, purchasing, or general info. If you have any suggestions, post them here and we will get them added to the list.

Newegg - PC/component shopping (USA Site)
Newegg Canada - PC/component shopping (Canadian Site)
Scan - PC/component shopping (UK Site)
OverclockersUK - PC/component shopping (UK Site)
PC Part Picker US - compares PC parts from many websites to get you the best price for your build
PC Part Picker UK - compares PC parts from many websites to get you the best price for your build
Tom's Hardware - great site for reviews, benchmarks, and has an extensive Q&A forum


Useful Software
Short list of useful programs to monitor or assist your system in a variety of ways. Unless otherwise noted, these will be free to download.

CPUID CPU-Z - gives you information on your processor and RAM speeds, voltage, and timings
CPUID HWMonitor - gives a real time voltage and thermal readout of most components connected to the motherboard
MSI Afterburner - overclocking and monitoring software for GPU's with some CPU monitoring as well
Malwarebytes - probably the best anti-malware program available for free


Helpful UG Users
The following users are regulars and have a wide range of knowledge over many topics. They are great resources to use for various topics when it comes to anything computer related. If you feel like you have anything to offer at all, feel free to speak up with what your are knowledgeable with and we will put you on the list. Programers, IT guys, DYIer's, Enthusiasts, general PC knowledge, or even if you only know Microsoft Office inside and out, your skills are welcome.


DamienEx1021: Intel/AMD CPU and AMD GPU, general hardware, basic overclocking
H4T3BR33D3R General hardware, audio recording, basic overclocking
BjarnedeGraaf: Intel CPU, AMD GPU, general hardware, Network/IT Specialist, Windows Server
Confuse-a-Cat: Intel CPU, nVidia GPU, general hardware
crazysam23_Atax: Software Engineer, general computer knowledge
muffinduck01: Servers, Linux, pre-Windows XP operating systems


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Please include the following (examples listed for assistance):
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-CPU (AMD FX-8350, Intel i5-4690)
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-RAM (G.Skill 8gb- 2x4gb 1600mhz DDR3, Corsair 16gb- 4x4gb 3200 DDR4)
-PSU/Power Supply* (Rosewill LIGHTNING-1000 1000W, CORSAIR CX600 600W)
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#3
my computer crashed every hour on the hour for two years with no other apparent problems. this is an academic problem i use to test the abilities of others. lets see what you've got
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Quote by genghisgandhi
my mac is broken, how do I fix it?


Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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#6
i used to know a thing or 2 about computers
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#7
Razer mousemat will be here this week.

Hyped!
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#8
Quote by Fisheth24
Razer mousemat will be here this week.

Hyped!


Nice. Glad to here.

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dorks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSVmJK5JHDw
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#9
Got the thread stickied guys. That's how dedicated I am to the thread.
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#10
Quote by Skullivan
Paging Damien...

So a friend of mine on another forum wants a PC
"to run Total War series games."

He has no brand preference, and I figure such a tame game would warrant an AMD setup. He just wants price estimates at this point.


I just looked at the specs for "Total War: Rome II" and running it on extreme quality will require a really good GPU and mid to high end CPU. If I had to put a ball park price for it I would say he will need to spend at least $750 for hardware alone.

Quote by Fisheth24
Got the thread stickied guys. That's how dedicated I am to the thread.


I stickied it as soon as I posted it but good to know someone else believes in us.
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Quote by Fisheth24
Razer mousemat will be here this week.

Hyped!



I got the vespula, thing is lovely.
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#12
Quote by theguitarist
I got the vespula, thing is lovely.


Which one do you have? Those things look sweet.
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Quote by Fisheth24
Got the thread stickied guys. That's how dedicated I am to the thread.

You think you are dedicated? I set you guys up perfectly to make this first page look like a normal page in this thread. Problem is posed, dorks ignore problem to talk about mousepads or something silly, rinse repeat
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Quote by Thrashtastic15
You think you are dedicated? I set you guys up perfectly to make this first page look like a normal page in this thread. Problem is posed, dorks ignore problem to talk about mousepads or something silly, rinse repeat

dorks i tell ya smh
banned
#15
Quote by Thrashtastic15
my computer crashed every hour on the hour for two years with no other apparent problems. this is an academic problem i use to test the abilities of others. lets see what you've got


Quote by Thrashtastic15
You think you are dedicated? I set you guys up perfectly to make this first page look like a normal page in this thread. Problem is posed, dorks ignore problem to talk about mousepads or something silly, rinse repeat


Unfortunately I mainly specialize in hardware. My best guess would be that some program executed on the hour that caused an system error and then the program crashed. Synced with the clock or something. Doesn't seem like a hardware issue at all.
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Quote by DamienEx1021
Which one do you have? Those things look sweet.



this one:
http://www.razerzone.com/gb-en/gaming-mouse-mats/razer-vespula

double sided, one is rough, one is smooth. comes with a non-slip "bottom" mat for the double-sided bit to rest on.

has a nice wrist rest, firm but with enough to give for comfort.


only bad thing is the logo on the wristrest rubs off in like a few hours of use, but I bought the thing for it's utility over the branding so don't mind.
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Quote by DamienEx1021
Unfortunately I mainly specialize in hardware. My best guess would be that some program executed on the hour that caused an system error and then the program crashed. Synced with the clock or something. Doesn't seem like a hardware issue at all.

nah it was crucial being shit

"Due to an incorrect response to a SMART counter, an m4 drive running one of the three firmware revisions mentioned above becomes unresponsive after 5184 hours of Power-on time, and every new hour after that. "

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Quote by Thrashtastic15
nah it was crucial being shit

"Due to an incorrect response to a SMART counter, an m4 drive running one of the three firmware revisions mentioned above becomes unresponsive after 5184 hours of Power-on time, and every new hour after that. "



I guess it was a hardware issue. That is a weird one.
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#20
How do I understand cyberpunk?
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Did you hear about the cockney Godfather?

He made them an offer they couldn't understand.
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Quote by Thrashtastic15
nah it was crucial being shit

"Due to an incorrect response to a SMART counter, an m4 drive running one of the three firmware revisions mentioned above becomes unresponsive after 5184 hours of Power-on time, and every new hour after that. "




I learned very quickly not to cheap out on ssds, having some bad times with crucial and kingston. samsungs only for me for a while now. then again I haven't bought a new ssd in like a year so I don't know if everyone else is okay now.


same sort of reason I only use Western digital for my hdds (about 10+ drives over the years, only one has completely failed and that died in about 2 days so it was no problem)


edit: ocz was okay when i wanted a cheap one for some bs task like upgrading a games console drive, but I've not put them under enough stress to see if were solid.
edit:
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#22
Quote by theguitarist
I learned very quickly not to cheap out on ssds, having some bad times with crucial and kingston. samsungs only for me for a while now. then again I haven't bought a new ssd in like a year so I don't know if everyone else is okay now.


same sort of reason I only use Western digital for my hdds (about 10+ drives over the years, only one has completely failed and that died in about 2 days so it was no problem)

it was a pretty good drive outside of that but ya rockin a samsung now
#23
About the whole windows 10 upgrade. Can I only upgrade for a year and then I have to pay or go back to 8.1. Or does it just mean I have one year to upgrade, and if I don't within a year I'll have to pay?
#24
every time i see a picture of a brand new graphics card i want to bite into it

is that normal
ggg1 ggg3

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#25
Quote by WhiskeyFace
How do I hack a computer?


Depends on what you want to do. It is very easy to monitor network activity and information being sent but it is much more difficult to lets say break into someones network, access their computer remotely, copy all of their files, and steal their porn.

Long story short you need to have excess free time, knowledge of coding and how to write programs, and a lot of patience.

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How do I understand cyberpunk?


Google it and read about it can't help you there.

Quote by Thrashtastic15
it was a pretty good drive outside of that but ya rockin a samsung now


I just got the Samsung 850 EVO 250gb. I was running an Intel 520 120gb and was largely out of space. Decided a cheep upgrade would be worth it and the read write times are amazing. Took me a whole 2min to clone 100gb of my Intel to the Samsung. Turns out SSD's can be tricky with the read/write. I just dug up the benchmarks and picked the best of both worlds.

Quote by Wormholes
About the whole windows 10 upgrade. Can I only upgrade for a year and then I have to pay or go back to 8.1. Or does it just mean I have one year to upgrade, and if I don't within a year I'll have to pay?


Well you don't really have to worry about that for a while. They are releasing 'Windows 10 Technical Preview' soon here and the full version sometime later this year. One of the other guys played with it for a while. I haven't looked at it yet, still happy with Win 7.
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#26
Damn, I missed the first page...

Oh well, I leave you with this.

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#28
Quote by Thrashtastic15
it was a pretty good drive outside of that but ya rockin a samsung now


yeah my basic 3 year old I've got as boot in this laptop is holding up really nice:



hdds I've used like the ssd here were usually in the 80% by now.


I put a newer one in a video editing build I did for someone last year and even though they abuse it for writing renders and storing current projects, the thing is still at 99% health. all their hdds abused in the past at least have a bunch of weak/bad sectors by that point.


also sticking with win 7 myself until forced to upgrade. have everything I want here, so don't see the benefit unless games/programs demand 8 or higher, which won't happen for a while.
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Quote by muffinduck01
Damn, I missed the first page...

Oh well, I leave you with this.



Would it make you feel better if I edited the first post and added it on there?

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yeah my basic 3 year old I've got as boot in this laptop is holding up really nice:



hdds I've used like the ssd here were usually in the 80% by now.

I put a newer one in a video editing build I did for someone last year and even though they abuse it for writing renders and storing current projects, the thing is still at 99% health. all their hdds abused in the past at least have a bunch of weak/bad sectors by that point.

also sticking with win 7 myself until forced to upgrade. have everything I want here, so don't see the benefit unless games/programs demand 8 or higher, which won't happen for a while.


Did you pay for 'Hard Disk Sentinel' or are you running a free version? It seems like something that would be useful considering I am running 4x HDD, 1x SSD, and have a hot swap set up for various other drives. And looking at the price for the professional version ($32) doesn't exactly seem like a bad deal.

I think I might make the jump to Win10 after I try it out on another PC first. The biggest thing to turn me off of Win8/8.1 was the whole "your PC is now a tablet" interface. I wanted nothing to do with it.

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every time i see a picture of a brand new graphics card i want to bite into it

is that normal


Yes
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Quote by DamienEx1021



Did you pay for 'Hard Disk Sentinel' or are you running a free version? It seems like something that would be useful considering I am running 4x HDD, 1x SSD, and have a hot swap set up for various other drives. And looking at the price for the professional version ($32) doesn't exactly seem like a bad deal.



I actually paid for pro, after "using" it for a while first. Really great hd monitor.

have it set so it opens up after boot and tells me immediately if any drive has an issue. managed to save a lot of headache from close to death drives. doesn't stop from random deaths or drives that die within a few hours of first use (DOA) but yeah, so much better than the competition I tried.

only one that told me one of my reliable 1tbs with a load of important stuff was about to drop dead when diskcheck and a few freeware ones I forget, said the thing was perfectly fine. became pretty much unusable a month after I had backed it up.


also has some really advanced disk checking options much better than the standard diskcheck stuff. I never use them though as there is no need really, but it's nice to have the option if I want to get really anal about a drive.


like the only other "small" software I've paid for is mp3tag and that was just donating £10 cause that program is so sweet for bulk tidying up mp3 metatags.
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#32
I've owned a mac for 2 years now. I'm pretty decided my next computer's going to be a PC. Too many workarounds with filetypes between the business I work for an the National Guard. It's a hassle to go through file conversion programs and not having all my documents be completely readable.

I know there are workarounds, but again, they're tedious. I got a Mac at the time for the Retina display, but since there are now much better screens in the PC world, I think it makes sense.

I haven't looked at computers for a while. I'm fine without a disc drive, and I really value portability. I don't game, and the most demanding program I run is Photoshop. That said, with a budget of $1,000 or so, what sort of laptops should I start researching? I like the idea of ultrabooks a lot. After having a Solid State HDD, I'm pretty set I'll never go back. Only 128GB of space doesn't bother me, I store most of my stuff via cloud.
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#33
I need to comment so that the thread icon has a dot on it.

So, uh. Hi.
#34
Quote by DamienEx1021
Would it make you feel better if I edited the first post and added it on there?


Nah, it's whatever. I half expected to miss it because I knew today was going to be super busy at work.

Anyway, have a funny on me thread.

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Quote by JustRooster
I've owned a mac for 2 years now. I'm pretty decided my next computer's going to be a PC. Too many workarounds with filetypes between the business I work for an the National Guard. It's a hassle to go through file conversion programs and not having all my documents be completely readable.

I know there are workarounds, but again, they're tedious. I got a Mac at the time for the Retina display, but since there are now much better screens in the PC world, I think it makes sense.

I haven't looked at computers for a while. I'm fine without a disc drive, and I really value portability. I don't game, and the most demanding program I run is Photoshop. That said, with a budget of $1,000 or so, what sort of laptops should I start researching? I like the idea of ultrabooks a lot. After having a Solid State HDD, I'm pretty set I'll never go back. Only 128GB of space doesn't bother me, I store most of my stuff via cloud.


disk drives are pretty much unnecessary now unless you want one for cd ripping or something, and then an external is probably easier. real question with ultrabooks is what size screen you are looking at, presuming you want everything else pretty standard. then it's just picking a brand that can build an ultrabook that will hold together longer than a year.


wasn't quite clear how intensive you are gonna use photohop but if it's for heavy use, I'd get a custom build like a clevo model. I think sager is the major US company building with clevo but there are plenty others. that way you can get your specific solid processor and graphics chip and get a nice gamut screen easily (i upgraded the base screen with a high gamut matt screen in my own clevo model a while back really easily)
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#37
I've been using 13.1. Again, portability is big with me. Pretty much take it everywhere. And I'm not doing a whole lot besides my basic photo editing. Nothing 3D, never beyond 20-30 layers.
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#38
oh, then most solid brands will do, just might want to make sure the processor and gpu aren't super basic so they don't randomly freak out.

soz, can't give any particular recs though, don't really know what's good at that price range.
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#39
No worries. I suppose I'll just see whichever gives me the best processing for the money and has a reputation for not falling apart.
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#40
Quote by theguitarist
I actually paid for pro, after "using" it for a while first. Really great hd monitor.


I know what I am picking up next pay check. I mean I could get it now but eh. I need to slow down on my spending.

Wanted to ask, do you guys have a Newegg type site over there on that side of the pond? Would like to link that for the UK users since Newegg is useless over seas.

Quote by JustRooster
No worries. I suppose I'll just see whichever gives me the best processing for the money and has a reputation for not falling apart.


Honestly, you really can't go wrong with a Dell. I would never buy one of their PC's but when it comes to laptops, I have a hard time recommending anything else. That being said, the website is terrible and crap to navigate. Makes it a pain in the ass.
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