#1
so i have been fighting the patch cable thing for a while and decided to do somthing about it. i don't want to spend $10-$15 for a little shitty cable.

so i went to http://www.best-tronics.com/ which was referred to from matt.

i got 40' of: CA-0446 cable which is above mogami spec.

i got the Switchraft 228 jacks (20IIRC) for $3.35. they are pancake.

the first cable took about 45 minutes (i haven't ever done it before ) but now the ones i did today were about 10 to 15 minutes.

they are solid. i know i did them and i know i got good joints, they will last.

the cable is nice low memory.

i made cables with the jacks both the same direction, opposite, and right sided and left-sided. things tuck nicely.

i still have a ton of cable left and i will have it around. i will step it up to the next level with cable for main long cables.











$7+$.50 (two jacks, 7 inches of cable). $7.50, and solid.

i will NEVER buy another guitar cable in my life. its way cheaper and easier to do. they are as good as you solder it but its not hard at all.

if you haven't done it, DO IT. save yourself a TON of $$$. i could have saved me a few hundred hours throughout the last decade.
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#2
Nice been meaning to do that myself for sometime now. By the way is that a BYOC Zendrive?
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Nice been meaning to do that myself for sometime now. By the way is that a BYOC Zendrive?


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#4
As someone who is..."mechanically disinclined"...I have to ask:
  • How much was your initial investment in the equipment to make these cables?
  • Where would I buy such equipment?
  • what kind of workspace would I need?
  • How difficult a task would this be for an utter novice?
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#5
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i will NEVER buy another guitar cable in my life. its way cheaper and easier to do. they are as good as you solder it but its not hard at all.
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#6
I've been using Canare cable and Neutrik ends (I think they may be better than Switchcraft) for years. You can crank out a bag of cables in an evening and (depending on how you buy the bulk supplies) they can cost you a third of the "lifetime warranty" cables while matching or exceeding their quality.
#7
Congrats on being self-sufficient and avoiding labor costs as well as high margins!

And good for you for not buying cable-making kits. Those things are too expensive. Your cable is $.69 USD per foot. Nice!
#8
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I've been using Canare cable and Neutrik ends (I think they may be better than Switchcraft) for years. You can crank out a bag of cables in an evening and (depending on how you buy the bulk supplies) they can cost you a third of the "lifetime warranty" cables while matching or exceeding their quality.


don't like neutrik ends. i think that switchfaft has the better one. lol. but either way it probably doesn't make a big difference.

but $7 for the two ends and a 6" of cable can't beat it.

yea it is about a third. monster and moogami 6"ers are around $20 a pop.

also what is really nice about this cable is that it has like zero memory. and it nice and flexible.better than any other cable i have heard.
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#9
Quote by dannyalcatraz
As someone who is..."mechanically disinclined"...I have to ask:
  • How much was your initial investment in the equipment to make these cables?
  • Where would I buy such equipment?
  • what kind of workspace would I need?
  • How difficult a task would this be for an utter novice?


1. $3-$4 for each connecter $.69-$.80 a foot. then shipping.
2. http://www.best-tronics.com/
3. just a workbench. you need a good soldering iron but ideally a standalone unit
4. if you are a complete novice i would advise on doing something different first. the way that these jacks are you need to get the right amount of solder in to make sure that
you have a good joint otherwise its going to probably have negative results.

but its totally doable.
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#10
On the equipment front, I was talking about the soldering iron, etc. What's all that stuff run for a decent quality tool? 'Cause I gots NUTTIN'!

Also, what would you recommend as learner projects before trying this?
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#11
I saw on a video the other day that Planet Waves has a solderless custom cable kit, not sure how much it costs though. I think I may be making my own cables soon. I've rebuilt my pedal collection and recently picked up a spiffy new, gigantic, two-tiered pedalboard, so cables of all sorts have been a thorn in my side lately. Happy Cable Freedom Day! I'm envious!
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#12
Nice
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#13
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I saw on a video the other day that Planet Waves has a solderless custom cable kit, not sure how much it costs though. I think I may be making my own cables soon. I've rebuilt my pedal collection and recently picked up a spiffy new, gigantic, two-tiered pedalboard, so cables of all sorts have been a thorn in my side lately. Happy Cable Freedom Day! I'm envious!


Solderless cables are almost universally unreliable garbage. The only real exceptions are Evidence Monorail SIS and Lava Cable TightRope, though both are overpriced, IMO.

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As someone who is..."mechanically disinclined"...I have to ask:



    1) All you need is a soldering station, a pair of wire strippers and preferably a coax stripper. A decent soldering station can be found for ~$50 but I'd recommend stepping up to a mid range Weller or Hakko for about $100. Wire strippers and coax strippers should come in around $10.

    2) All of the equipment is available at Fry's if you'd like to pick it up in person. Otherwise, try Amazon.

    3) A ******* table is more than sufficient. Lay down some newspaper if your table is fragile (i.e., wood or similar).

    4) Not difficult at all for the most part. Though there are some caveats. Your first handful of cables are likely to be mediocre if you've never practiced soldering before, and/or you rush through it. They'll work, but a crap joint will result in failure sooner or later. But all you need to do to fix it is to resolder it, which since you've hopefully made a few cables, will result in a better joint.

    Second caveat, the standard Switchcraft pancake cables don't have a solder tag for the shield wire. You have to solder it directly to the casing, which is fairly difficult for the novice, especially if you don't have a good soldering iron with a high power output. The ones Lava have made for them do have a solder tag, however. And you can get them in colors. And as an added bonus, they dropped the price on them and they're actually currently cheaper than the regular ones from Best-Tronics.

    http://www.lavacable.com/index.php?id=159
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    #14
    Good to know about solderless cables. I can solder (though stiil awkward and green), but the video made it look so quick, as in it'd take less than a minute to make a patch cable. I had the thought, its probably to good to be true.

    Instead of buying a "guitar cable kit", would a place like Radio Shack have everything I need?
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    #15
    Quote by lucky1978
    Good to know about solderless cables. I can solder (though stiil awkward and green), but the video made it look so quick, as in it'd take less than a minute to make a patch cable. I had the thought, its probably to good to be true.

    Instead of buying a "guitar cable kit", would a place like Radio Shack have everything I need?


    Yea, they're quick and easy to make, but the connection just isn't reliable. You can improve it by using Loctite on the screws, but it's still nowhere near as good as a soldered connection.

    Radio Shack should have everything, but their stuff tends to be overpriced for the level of quality that you get. Their connectors aren't even close to being on the same level of Switchcraft, Neutrik, Amphenol, GLS, etc.
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    #16
    3) A ******* table is more than sufficient. Lay down some newspaper if your table is fragile (i.e., wood or similar).


    At this time, I have no space in which to permanently erect a ******* table.

    Seriously, though, I'd probably have to set up a folding table in the garage. And the ones I have are all topped with vinyl- probably not a good choice, given the kind of stuff we're discussing. Would a glass-top folding lawn table be sufficient?
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    #17
    Quote by mmolteratx
    Solderless cables are almost universally unreliable garbage. The only real exceptions are Evidence Monorail SIS and Lava Cable TightRope, though both are overpriced, IMO.


    1) All you need is a soldering station, a pair of wire strippers and preferably a coax stripper. A decent soldering station can be found for ~$50 but I'd recommend stepping up to a mid range Weller or Hakko for about $100. Wire strippers and coax strippers should come in around $10.

    2) All of the equipment is available at Fry's if you'd like to pick it up in person. Otherwise, try Amazon.

    3) A ******* table is more than sufficient. Lay down some newspaper if your table is fragile (i.e., wood or similar).

    4) Not difficult at all for the most part. Though there are some caveats. Your first handful of cables are likely to be mediocre if you've never practiced soldering before, and/or you rush through it. They'll work, but a crap joint will result in failure sooner or later. But all you need to do to fix it is to resolder it, which since you've hopefully made a few cables, will result in a better joint.

    Second caveat, the standard Switchcraft pancake cables don't have a solder tag for the shield wire. You have to solder it directly to the casing, which is fairly difficult for the novice, especially if you don't have a good soldering iron with a high power output. The ones Lava have made for them do have a solder tag, however. And you can get them in colors. And as an added bonus, they dropped the price on them and they're actually currently cheaper than the regular ones from Best-Tronics.

    http://www.lavacable.com/index.php?id=159

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    #18
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    This was what my tech recommended weeks ago!


    Yea, they're cool. I always wanted to get some back when they only had the black ones just because they looked cool, but they were ~4-5/piece, which was just too much, IMO. Plus I've got like 300 regular Switchcraft ones that I bought a few years ago.
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    #19
    Quote by mmolteratx

    3) A ******* table is more than sufficient.


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    At this time, I have no space in which to permanently erect a ******* table.


    What do you guys have against tables?
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    I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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    #20
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    What do you guys have against tables?

    mmolteratx probably has some hot co-ed against his.

    Me? I just don't have available space.
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    I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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    #22
    Quote by mmolteratx
    Yea, they're cool. I always wanted to get some back when they only had the black ones just because they looked cool, but they were ~4-5/piece, which was just too much, IMO. Plus I've got like 300 regular Switchcraft ones that I bought a few years ago.

    And a friend was asking what I needed 50 of the same thing.
    #24
    Prolly.: haha:

    ...but a GF usually means less space & $ for MY stuff, right? Not sure if worth it...
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    #26
    Liar!

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    #27
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    Keep her happy, take her places, and she'll buy you stuff, yea?


    my girl treats me right. i complained my back was hurting from my shitty drum throne, and one day i walk in and see a really nice thick padded pork pie one. i would have NEVER paid that much for a throne. i just maintain her and she keeps me happy. it helps that we both are musicians though. met in college music theory six years ago.
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