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The Official Drug Thread v10.0!
Return of the Acid

Tiny Chat: http://tinychat.com/thebizzlenizzle
Password: misterhoffman

Be nice!

Welcome, space-traveler, to the one and only Drug Thread. I have decided to give this thread the same name as its predecessor, the Drug Thread 10, as a tribute and reminder that this is an updated version of the last thread.

We are all human beings under the sun, united through the cosmic energy which resonates through our soul. Also, the rules for the Drug Thread series have been updated, and so here they are.

Rules


-Please remember this thread was locked before and will be locked again if you don't pay attention to the rules. If you notice somebody breaking the rules, do not reply to them and report their post. Standard procedure.

-No encouragement of dangerous/illegal activities, this thread will be strictly discussion-based with no pictures of illicit drugs (or legal drugs) allowed

-Trip reports are allowed but please refrain from mentioning dangerous/illegal activities such as driving under the influence (one of the reasons this thread was locked). Remember that operating a vehicle whilst on drugs is a very serious matter and will not be tolerated in this thread (in a form of a story or otherwise).

-No mentioning of where to buy drugs/how to buy from blackmarkets/mailing eachother packages and please no detailed descriptions of picking up (prices/locations etc)

- Flaming and excessive spam will not be tolerated. We encourage educated and mature discussion of drugs - bashers and flamers' opinions are not welcome here.

- As in the last thread, we as a community encourage drug users to be educated and careful about the decisions they make. Most drugs can and will be dangerous physically and/or mentally if not handled correctly, so please be smart about the decisions you make. We will answer any and all questions you may have.

(special thanks to JamSessionFreak and the mods for helping me form these rules)

Relevant Links


Drugs Forum
Drugs forum is one of the best drug information/addiction help forums available with a constantly updating user discussion.

Erowid
Erowid is a good source for quick drug information with vault entries and images.

NORML
A major organization for the reform of marijuana law.

Leafly
A very good source for all things marijuana.

PillReports
Look up your pills here to make sure they are safe to take.

If you have anything you'd like to add, please PM me!

PREVIOUS THREADS


Drug Thread v10.0: Return of the Acid

Drug Thread v9.0: The Bizzle Nizzle of the Centurizzle

Drug Thread v8.0: Revenge of the Mushrooms

Drug Thread v7.0: Marijuana Strikes Back

Drug Thread v6.0

HELPFUL GUIDES AND INFORMATION




Further posting guidelines/suggestions:

Quote by garden of grey
1. Other regulars: stop messaging and begging me for ways to score drugs lol. Yes, I gave out a link on where to buy kratom and kava kava back when they were on amazon and ebay, some states and countries have banned them now. And no, the 101st person who messages me asking for hallucinogens will not receive any either. (if any mods want to check my profile mailbox its pretty hilarious)

2. Don't hate on people for posting negative experience reports. I like most of the drugs I have tried but I have gotten some terrible side effects and had terrible times before. Considering the glorification of any and every drug in many online discussion areas, posting a bad trip report can help someone out more than posting things you would recommend.

3. Do not encourage others to do hard street drugs pretty much unconditionally. This means that harm reduction and advice for people in a hard place to get better would be welcome, but smoking crack or meth then posting huge goofy rants that fill up the thread should be discouraged. Also people selling their stuff for heroin money should hit up craigslist instead of posting about how desperate they are here.

4. Don't be a gateway to other drugs. If someone says that weed or beer is their thing there is no need to tell them it isn't shit and they just haven't tried molly/whatever yet. Hard drugs do have stronger rushes for the most part but I find many to not be as fulfilling as the ones that don't hang you over, **** up your behavior badly, and then make you sick when you stop them.

5. Don't post links on where to buy analog drugs. This means if you want 25x-nbome, lsz, mephedrone, or whatever is barely legal go to an actual research chemical forum, not the guitar forums. If you are in the USA these drugs are not even legal once you start selling them locally with proof of human consumption. (which means putting it in a cap or talking about ingesting it to a customer, its gonna happen) You can buy unscheduled analogs online but many will fail a police drug analysis for being closely related to other illegal drugs and you will go to jail and maybe get the charges dropped later. Also Congress and states ban many of these drugs on a yearly basis, so posting things that are about to become straight up felonies is pretty sketchy. (My local headshop got raided by the DEA last year for selling spice analogs and my neighbor is still under DOJ investigation for selling rc on blotter, it might feel legal but with a government like ours they try to get at least somebody in trouble for pretty much every drug they encountered.)

Feel free to close this as soon as the DT is open, I just wanted to throw out what I thought would be some additional stipulations for proper etiquette in the drug thread. (thanks theguitarist) Suggestions or closing this thread are both welcome if it doesn't belong here or if more suggestions actually do belong pre-dt.


Quote by JamSessionFreak


1. Discourage mixing of different drugs. The speedball being one good reason for it but mixing even the softest drugs can seriously harm an individual with a metabolism and mental health we know nothing about. I know of people who were taken into mental institutions when a mix of weed and alcohol triggered the mental breakdown that was bound to happen. The drugs may not have caused that but they sure as hell helped.

2. Always encourage moderation of use and use in a safe environment - a place where you feel safe and comfortable and doing it with people you know and trust. Bad trips and panic attacks are never a good thing. Hell, it's the first thing my friends tell me when I ask them about trying LSD and shrooms.


For people wondering how the DT was revived, most of the conversation is in this thread:
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1667487

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1668259

Don't do drugs guys they're mostly trouble. However if you're going to do them, or want to talk about them, or if you are a human being willing to connect with druggies, you are welcome here bro. Come here x
Click here to hear my BOB DYLAN (Blowing in the Wind) out right now May 2k17
Last edited by laid-to-waste at Jan 11, 2017,
#2
first

but seriously dont do drugs kids.
pinga
Last edited by Cb4rabid at Jan 26, 2015,
#3
yeeeee

^ YOU BASTARD ILL GET YOU FOR THIS


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#6
just want to say thankyou to everybody who helped in the discussion that brought this thread back, you all helped

Quote by deadsmileyface
to be clear, discussion of illegal drugs is allowed, it's just pictures that are not okay?

yeah, pictures of drugs aren't allowed, but discussion of drugs are.
Click here to hear my BOB DYLAN (Blowing in the Wind) out right now May 2k17
#7
Quote by laid-to-waste
just want to say thankyou to everybody who helped in the discussion that brought this thread back, you all helped

you did most of the work brah good on ya


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#8
Quote by laid-to-waste

yeah, pictures of drugs aren't allowed, but discussion of drugs are.

cool

banned
#10
Quote by laid-to-waste
just want to say thankyou to everybody who helped in the discussion that brought this thread back, you all helped


yeah, pictures of drugs aren't allowed, but discussion of drugs are.




Soooo, has anyone other than me watched The Culture High (follow up to The Union: The Business Behind Getting High)

If so I would like to know what you thought about it as a standalone documentary and in comparison to The Union?
Dance in the moonlight my old friend twilight


Quote by metal4eva_22
What's this about ****ing corpses? My UG senses were tingling.
#11
Quote by GuitarGod_92

'The saltyness immortalised' ~ GG92, 2015


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#13
Quote by ErikLensherr
Did you hear about the cockney Godfather?

He made them an offer they couldn't understand.
#14


thanks laid to waste, gog, jam, fat lard and everyone that helped pull this through. youre the best. and of course who could forget theguitarist, u da man mang
Quote by korinaflyingv
On the come up we were listening to Grateful Dead and the music started passing through my bowel and out my arsehole as this violet stream of light. I shat music. It was beautiful.
#16
gosh mom get out of my room
Quote by korinaflyingv
On the come up we were listening to Grateful Dead and the music started passing through my bowel and out my arsehole as this violet stream of light. I shat music. It was beautiful.
#17
also thx cb4 for the drunk thread that inspired the dank thread that eventually led to this

ungrateful *****s
pinga
#20
Congratulations in getting the thread back. This is a first victory in our long fight against the dictatorship of the mods. Please use drugs safely people.
Quote by Carmel
I can't believe you are whoring yourself out like that.

ಠ_ಠ
#23
Hello everybody
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
#24
I'm not sure if I am allowed to ask this question; but does anyone else lose all feeling in his body when he eats spacecake (legal here). I had one slice and when I touched something or whatever I just couldn't feel it. Not sure if my body is overreacitng or if that's normal.
Quote by Carmel
I can't believe you are whoring yourself out like that.

ಠ_ಠ
#25
Plain old discussion of drugs is allowed so I'd assume that you are allowed to ask stuff like that.

But I've never had edibles so I'm not of any use
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
#27
Quote by Fat Lard
Well weed is a legitamite psychadelic drug, and I find that edibles/firecrackers used to give me actual trips (someone could probably explain better but the THC breaks down differently in stomach which I find makes the high last longer and more like a trip)


And naturally subjective experiences with trips will be different for everyone. One of my first roomies was an engineer who wanted to try it but was against smoking, and he enjoyed it (said he was transported back to Japan when we were crossing a road to get to a campus breakfast buffet place)

He said like 5 times he kept hallucinating that he was pissing and shitting himself, and would have to go to the bathroom to make sure

I was in the city center. I had to go back home when I lost all feeling and Stairway to heaven was playing in the sky. My public transport card... couldn't feel it so I kept staring at it all the way back cause I didn't want to lose it. Then I suddenly thought: if I can't feel my body, how do I know I'm not peeing? So I then had my card in one and my hand in my pants (don't know why, wouldn't feel it if I would pee anyway).

It was such a weird experience. I really have to advise people to only do drugs in a safe environment at home and really research what you are doing before you do it.
Quote by Carmel
I can't believe you are whoring yourself out like that.

ಠ_ಠ
#28
Quote by Cb4rabid
also thx cb4 for the drunk thread that inspired the dank thread that eventually led to this

ungrateful *****s

You mean the drunk thread that I renamed 'dank threads' thus being the actual one leading to it? Where's my unwitting thanks


But like, yeah, behave and such everybody
Hey, look. Sigs are back.
#29
Never got to try edibles, probably should keep it like that. Getting too high is just awful for me anymore, I'll get crazy delusional.
#30
Yay drug thread :3

I smoked my first gravity bong about 2 weeks ago and my Uvula swelled up really badly. Anyone else get this from grav/smoking?
#31
Am open to MDMA but the street cutting and lacing is so sketchy that I really don't think I could feel entirely comfortable taking it like I would with other psychedelics. I mean, being prepared is essential but with MDMA it would likely be a constant thought in my head about the purity which would hold me back from totally enjoying the experience.

Anyone else?
Dance in the moonlight my old friend twilight


Quote by metal4eva_22
What's this about ****ing corpses? My UG senses were tingling.
#32
Quote by Nero Galon
Am open to MDMA but the street cutting and lacing is so sketchy that I really don't think I could feel entirely comfortable taking it like I would with other psychedelics. I mean, being prepared is essential but with MDMA it would likely be a constant thought in my head about the purity which would hold me back from totally enjoying the experience.

Anyone else?


I've never found legit mdma

It's more than likely always a methbomb.

With that said, I've actually been clean for many months now and don't do drugs and am only here to educate
ayy lmao
#34
Quote by Nero Galon
Am open to MDMA but the street cutting and lacing is so sketchy that I really don't think I could feel entirely comfortable taking it like I would with other psychedelics. I mean, being prepared is essential but with MDMA it would likely be a constant thought in my head about the purity which would hold me back from totally enjoying the experience.

Anyone else?

go for ecstacy. at least with pills you can ask around and even google the contents if someone in your area has been kind enough to test it and tell the internet about it. with powder and crystals they're much easier to cut and you really have no way of knowing what youre getting. people have this illusion that when youre buying crystals youre getting pure stuff but it's a bunch of crap. however bear in mind that when a great pill goes on the market and gains a good reputation people may rip off the design and print another, much crappier batch on the cheap. this, too, can sometimes be solved with google as slight differences in texture and design can help you identify what batch youve got. if you're unsure about what youve got i'd advise you not take it of course but if you must then take it slow, only eat one through the night and remember to drink lots of water and try to enjoy it for what it is.

always be cautious with mdma and ecstacy. that stuff can be bad, even if youre getting the good stuff, mdma is neurotoxic, so you should always wait at least 3 weeks in between rolls and never take more than one pill in one night, especially if youre unsure of the contents.
Quote by korinaflyingv
On the come up we were listening to Grateful Dead and the music started passing through my bowel and out my arsehole as this violet stream of light. I shat music. It was beautiful.
#35
Yeah i'd rather pill form than crystal. And even then I would probably have to brave it out to have a whole one. Its probably going to take years for me to even get into a situation where I come across ecstasy as I don't get out much and not sure if my friends are into anything other than cannabis

And yeah I getcha with the neurotoxity

Watched the Rise of Ecstasy documentary on YT a couple of hours ago. Highly recommend. Hilarious government funded results.


He posted results of Meth and said it was the result of MDMA on monkeys


Dance in the moonlight my old friend twilight


Quote by metal4eva_22
What's this about ****ing corpses? My UG senses were tingling.
#36
@Lard

I have no first hand personal experience but I know two people really well that are addicted.



My dad is an alcoholic. He quit for 9 years. Now he's back to his old ways He suffers badly from depression and uses alcohol to medicate. He's miserable without it.

My brother-in-law is an addict. He's hooked on mostly opiates and depressants. He's relapsed more times than I can count. At the moment he's not doing too bad, but he admits that even the mention of the name of drugs makes him crave them.



Hell even my mum who quit smoking like 16 years ago still tells me that she craves tobacco still. So i'd say addiction is very long lasting sadly.
Dance in the moonlight my old friend twilight


Quote by metal4eva_22
What's this about ****ing corpses? My UG senses were tingling.
#37
Quote by Fat Lard
Same (apart from beer/occasionally alcohol)

Went thru a pretty shitty 2014 getting enslaved by stimulants, though it was good of me to experience looking back on it.

Been 'clean' in this way for about 3 months and still feel like theres a lack of drive compared to how I sped thru grad classes while doing completely right-brained side-study in other non-biz needed credits which helped kinda throw me out the loop of a type of 'slaving mentality', which was also kinda bad in interfering with my priorities.


Question I had about overcoming addiction though:

Does anyone find it ever goes away? I dont mean like the dependence to need it, but like... idk, 1st month was hell and forever fatigueness, but I find I still seem to have just a slight, lingering 'lack of drive/motivation'. Its hard to explain - and its not very true - im still motivated with drive and stuff, and I guess its just not the constant 24/7/365 of feeling like Bradley Cooper in Limitless ive gotten used to...

Im just curious if anyone had anything to share on this, particularly amphetamines if that was possible... lol

boy do we have a lot to talk about

might wanna do it through pm or im for now tho
Quote by korinaflyingv
On the come up we were listening to Grateful Dead and the music started passing through my bowel and out my arsehole as this violet stream of light. I shat music. It was beautiful.
#38
Quote by That Old Geezer
I smoked my first gravity bong about 2 weeks ago and my Uvula swelled up really badly. Anyone else get this from grav/smoking?


I get a different kind of swelling
Seriously, some types of weed highs will get me aroused

Quote by Fat Lard
Definitely. I only like one edible (gram trips) with smoking sparingly, but my friend with a higher tplerance as he was an everyday all day kind of guy cpuld smoke throughout on it and im like "No thanks, I'm good!


wait, entire gram trips? or mg trips?
my go-to edible is typically 45 mg per serving, and I'm usually good on one with bowls here and there

Quote by Pastafarian96
I an evety characyer in this story
#39
Quote by Fat Lard


Question I had about overcoming addiction though:

Does anyone find it ever goes away? I dont mean like the dependence to need it, but like... idk, 1st month was hell and forever fatigueness, but I find I still seem to have just a slight, lingering 'lack of drive/motivation'. Its hard to explain - and its not very true - im still motivated with drive and stuff, and I guess its just not the constant 24/7/365 of feeling like Bradley Cooper in Limitless ive gotten used to...

Im just curious if anyone had anything to share on this, particularly amphetamines if that was possible... lol


Nope.

It's been like, 7-8 months since i've really stopped, and it's still on my mind constantly, everyday. All I want to do is go back to the way i was, and if i could i would. It's kind of a weird situation i was put in to quit, but it worked.

The physical symptoms have subsided, the mental aspect and the need to chase the dragon for me hasn't, at all. It's only gotten stronger. Take that however you want lol

That's just my case tho.
ayy lmao
Last edited by chookiecookie at Jan 26, 2015,
#40
45mg weed per edible serving? are you perchance a hamster
Quote by korinaflyingv
On the come up we were listening to Grateful Dead and the music started passing through my bowel and out my arsehole as this violet stream of light. I shat music. It was beautiful.