#1
Hey guys! So, I want to buy a small amp to play at home. I'm going to buy a 20w one, I don't want anything too loud because I don't want to bother my neighbours and it is just to practice. I have a 70 euros budget, and I am undecided between these 2 amps:

Harley Benton HB-20B - http://www.thomann.de/pt/harley_benton_hb20b_bass_combo.htm

Artec Cubix B2 - http://www.thomann.de/pt/artec_cubix_b2.htm

The HB has a 4 band EQ and the Artec a 3 band EQ (but it has a Frequency knob next to the Middle knob, so doesn't that makes it a 4 band EQ?). Also, the Cubix has 2 Pre-Amp modes, Clean and Drive.

Aside from weight (the Cubix is lighter), I suppose those are the only differences between the 2.

I play thrash metal mostly by the way.
#2
I like the way the HB sounds much better. Having a 4 band eq is different than 3 with a mid sweep function, but I can see the pros and cons of either.
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#3
Never used either but the Roland MicroCube is the goto practice amp for low volume and ease of transport. They are more $$ new but you can probably find a good used one for $60.
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#4
^ the bass micro cube is a lot more money. even used I'm guessing he's going to struggle to find one for that price in europe.

I haven't tried either but I was looking into the artec for a while... IIRC one of the reviewers said the amp models on the artec just muddied up the sound. listening to the thomann soundclips (not exactly a great test, but all i've got) it sounded enough like the reviewer was right that it put me right off it.

also i got an artec pedal a while back and it was alrightish, but that's about it. again, not exactly much help, but I probably wouldn't hold out too high hopes for the artec one.
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#5
definitely check out some pawn shops. you can find old trace elliotts for a pretty reasonable price if you hunt around enough, and i can't recommend them enough in terms of bang for your buck in the used market
#6
Go used, you'll find better amps for less.

I don't know about HB bass amps but my friend has a HB guitar amp and it sounds pretty bad. Though if it's just for practice, it doesn't need to be that great. And also, bass tone doesn't really need that much coloring from the amp so I don't know. Maybe the HB amp will work. But I would still recommend looking at used amps. Also, more power doesn't hurt. You can always turn it down. I have a 250 watt Hartke amp at home and it's not loud unless you want it to be. So if you find a more powerful amp that fits your budget, buy it. That way if you want to jam with somebody, you are able to do it.
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#7
^ Yeah. Some of the HB stuff is pretty good (the g212 vintage guitar speaker cabinet for example), but I'd tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to their amps.
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#8
In Europe, it's hard to find used stuff that is much cheaper than the original price. Most of the used gear that I see is only like 10 euros cheaper. Since the difference isn't huge, it's better to buy new.

Thank you all for the replies! I can't find any amps more powerful than 20w in my budget, so I think I'll go for the Artec Cubix.
#9
^ Yeah if there's very little difference in price, go new.

Let us know what the artec is like if you do decide to get it.
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#10
To each his own
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