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#1
Hey Pit, I've started learning how to drive recently, and it's going ok..

Apart from the fact that I never have a f*cking clue as to where objects are in regards to the car. Specifically, the non steering wheel side (the right side, in Italy)

So, when I'm in the road, I always tend to be too close to the middle, because I'm worried I'm always to close to the other side when in fact there might be a metre.

Or, if I have to drive in between a car and a wall (happened today) on a very tight road, I nearly clipped the car (which was on my side) because I thought I was too close to the wall. So I went very close to the car..when in fact , according to the instructor, there was more than enough space on the other side.


I just can't f*cking see it. How the f*ck do you see it? People say pracise but it's done jack sh*t for me so far.

I just can't f*cking tell how close things are from the passenger side of the car. And it's annoying.

Does anyone have any trick which could help out, while driving?

And I can't practise half as much as I would like because the laws in this stupid country make it damn near impossible, unless you have parents who have a hell of a load free time.
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#2
Are you asian or a woman or somethin?

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#3
Hug the side with no cars you noob. And there's a thing called a side mirror. Look at it. If you can't see the yellow line, move the **** over.
#4
My drive trainer taught me to focus on the space I wanted to go, not where I didn't. When you are looking at the road or the space or whatever it may be, you will probably naturally steer that way. As soon as you focus on the lines or the wall etc, you are more likely to veer and possibly hit something on the side. something like that, anyway. As far as spatial awareness, maybe go somewhere like a deserted carpark and set up boxes and practice driving/parking next to them. See how far off you are or how close. This way you can learn what the 'space' will look like.

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#5
I've been driving for 6 or 7 years now and have still never learned that ability, you're likely to never pick it up tbh. I just hug the drivers side everywhere I go since I can tell perfectly well how close I am to the line.
#7
If you JUST started, it's gonna take awhile to adapt. Learning while you're younger helps cause it sticks with you.

Or try a motorcycle, you'll learn real fast. (Or die)
#8
Check your side mirrors and keep your eyes in front of you. Don't look down on the road, that'll mess you up.
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#9
My driving instructor taught me to set up references in the car.
For example, I know I'm the right distance for pulling up to the curb when the curb looks like its leading into a certain part of my wiper blades. If the drivers side of the windscreen appears to be over the line dividing lanes, I'm too close to the centre. I'm not over the give way line if it appears to be under the wing mirror. The easiest way to have a look is to pull up to a quiet junction in some side roads, get out of the car and look around it to see how far away from things you are like the give way line and the curb. Then try and match it up with items inside.

Also, when in doubt, just go slow and check your wing mirrors frequently, you should be able to see down the line of your car clearly in them.
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#10
I picked it up really quickly tbh. Just practice, practice, practice. Though I guess not everyone does, since the majority of people are ****ing abysmal drivers

Hopefully you're not part of that group, lol
#11
I'm horrified like, every day of scraping cars backing out of spaces and stuff lol, I don't get it either really although I've been good so far just being super careful. Yesterday though I was almost trapped because everybody parked weird due to snow covering the lines and the person behind me parked super far up. Took me like 2 minutes to get out
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#12
You get used to it.

Unless of course you have some problems visually with spatial stuff as is, then you might have to consult an instructor specifically for that.

But otherwise you will eventually learn the dimensions of your vehicle and you will be able to cut very close to things and not even think about it. I've learned the width and length of my truck pretty well over the 7 years of driving it.
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#15
Just don't drive. It is what I do. Then I will never found out if I am a crappy driver or not. Public transport is good here so **** it. Not going to spend thousands of euros getting a license for an item that I can't afford nor want.
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#16
You guys have to pay thousands to get your license? That blows

I think my permit cost $10
#18
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My driving instructor taught me to set up references in the car.
For example, I know I'm the right distance for pulling up to the curb when the curb looks like its leading into a certain part of my wiper blades. If the drivers side of the windscreen appears to be over the line dividing lanes, I'm too close to the centre. I'm not over the give way line if it appears to be under the wing mirror. The easiest way to have a look is to pull up to a quiet junction in some side roads, get out of the car and look around it to see how far away from things you are like the give way line and the curb. Then try and match it up with items inside.

Also, when in doubt, just go slow and check your wing mirrors frequently, you should be able to see down the line of your car clearly in them.

This would've been some useful shit when I was learning to drive. Practice does it too yeah but I got pretty close to scraping my car a few times when I did it the old-fashioned way, visual refferences would've been appreciated


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uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#19
"My drive trainer taught me to focus on the space I wanted to go, not where I didn't. When you are looking at the road or the space or whatever it may be, you will probably naturally steer that way. As soon as you focus on the lines or the wall etc, you are more likely to veer and possibly hit something on the side."


That's actually how I learned. After a while you get used to it. I was taught to not worry
about the cars beside you for now. As long as your driver/seat was aligned close to the middle of the road, I shouldn't have to worry about hitting cars that are parked on my right.
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#20
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You guys have to pay thousands to get your license? That blows

I think my permit cost $10

If you succeed in one go your lessons + license cost 1750-2500. But most people don't succeed in one go cause we have more difficult exams than 'mericans.
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#21
there's no way in hell you have to pay a thousand bucks just for learning to drive and taking the exam. is there?


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silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#22
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there's no way in hell you have to pay a thousand bucks just for learning to drive and taking the exam. is there?

Lessons cost 30-50 euros per hour. Exam costs 250.
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#23
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My driving instructor taught me to set up references in the car.
For example, I know I'm the right distance for pulling up to the curb when the curb looks like its leading into a certain part of my wiper blades. If the drivers side of the windscreen appears to be over the line dividing lanes, I'm too close to the centre. I'm not over the give way line if it appears to be under the wing mirror. The easiest way to have a look is to pull up to a quiet junction in some side roads, get out of the car and look around it to see how far away from things you are like the give way line and the curb. Then try and match it up with items inside.

Also, when in doubt, just go slow and check your wing mirrors frequently, you should be able to see down the line of your car clearly in them.

Doesn't work for all cars and if you have to drive a different car the reference points will be different. Although it is good for getting people through the test.
#24
Big difference with America is also that we don't have learner's permits. So all your learning must be done in the lessons which are expensive as ****.
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#25
Except ya dont have to take lessons. My pa did it the good ol fashion american way.


Put me in the driver seat and threatened to beat me if i crashed.
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#26
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Except ya dont have to take lessons. My pa did it the good ol fashion american way.


Put me in the driver seat and threatened to beat me if i crashed.

Except for the fact that you do need lessons? letting someone drive who doesn't have a license is a gross violation of the law and if caught you get a hefty fine.
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#27
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If you succeed in one go your lessons + license cost 1750-2500. But most people don't succeed in one go cause we have more difficult exams than 'mericans.

Yea, I paid $10 for a learners permit, my dad took me driving for a couple weeks, and then the test (which if it cost anything, wasn't higher than $20) was to parallel park and drive around a parking lot. Boom, license
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Except ya dont have to take lessons. My pa did it the good ol fashion american way.


Put me in the driver seat and threatened to beat me if i crashed.

#28
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Except for the fact that you do need lessons? letting someone drive who doesn't have a license is a gross violation of the law and if caught you get a hefty fine.


Read a book to study for permit test
Take test to get permit
Practice driving with parent/guardian while having permit
~6 months later~
Take driving test
Tada license
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#29
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Yea, I paid $10 for a learners permit, my dad took me driving for a couple weeks, and then the test (which if it cost anything, wasn't higher than $20) was to parallel park and drive around a parking lot. Boom, license


Like I said, we are not allowed to do that here. We don't have learner's permits. So all the learning takes place in lessons that cost 30-50 euros per hour. Once you are "done" with those you get the exam which costs 250 euros. But most people need 2 or 3 takes cause the examiners are bitches.
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#30
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Read a book to get permit
Take test to get permit
Practice driving with parent/guardian while having permit
~6 months later~
Take driving test
Tada license

There is the problem. We don't have that step. There is no such permit.
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#31
I forgot to ask if you were elderly


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#33
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Lessons cost 30-50 euros per hour. Exam costs 250.

jfc that's cray


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silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#34
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Like I said, we are not allowed to do that here. We don't have learner's permits. So all the learning takes place in lessons that cost 30-50 euros per hour. Once you are "done" with those you get the exam which costs 250 euros. But most people need 2 or 3 takes cause the examiners are bitches.

No wonder you guys are so into bicycles.
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#35
Actually, Neo, I fully support that. At least 50% of the drivers in the DC metro area do not deserve to drive. They should just stick to riding tricycles.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#37
^ from which side? >.>

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#38
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I've been driving for 6 or 7 years now and have still never learned that ability, you're likely to never pick it up tbh. I just hug the drivers side everywhere I go since I can tell perfectly well how close I am to the line.

Yeah this, except only 5 years. I'm trying to correct that though. Same with the back of the car when parking.
#39
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letting someone drive who doesn't have a license is a gross violation of the law and if caught you get a hefty fine.

lol I wouldn't have guessed you were so innocent

I learned how to drive when I was 14 going down one of the worst roads in this state
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lol I wouldn't have guessed you were so innocent

I learned how to drive when I was 14 going down one of the worst roads in this state

Different cultures innit
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