#1
Hi guys, im looking to buy an electric guitar

-i live in canada, GTA region. would like to play guitar before buying it
- $400 budget, willing to go slightly over if its worth it.
- guitar will be used for metal/heavy genres, so humbucker pickups, mahogany/basswood body
-preferably no tremolo, unless it doesnt make tuning a hassle/ the guitar is a really good deal (will be drop tuning really low, like drop b)
- I do not require an amp, im using an interface to record and guitar rig 5 to get my tones.

I am currently looking at the Jackson Guitars - JS32 Dinky Arch Top from long and mcquade,(289.99) or the ibanez rg350dx (used from theguitarworld) for 299.99.
I was also looking at the RG421EX, but it seems to be out of stock everywhere .
(450)

Any input, suggestions or recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks!
Last edited by BuiltIn at Feb 23, 2015,
#2
you might want to look at the BC Rich Mockingbird ST (hard tail). they probably cost more than your budget new but you might be able to find a used one.
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you might want to look at the BC Rich Mockingbird ST (hard tail). they probably cost more than your budget new but you might be able to find a used one.

I found a used one. $540 and its about a 2 hour drive away.
not looking too keen on this one, alot more than my budget and the drive is quite far.
Thanks though.
#4
i wouldn't buy a ibanez with a tremolo for near that price, they just use shitty metal and the pivots wear. also, i don't think i would buy a licensed floyd from any brand, they probably aren't great either.

which is good because you are not looking into a floyd.

i would look for a used DKMGT, i had one and it was great. they go in your budget used.

or if you like LTD, a 400 series are nice (ideally not the 401) i haven't liked them as much though.

avoid dean in your budget.

are you set on a superstrat shape?
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#6
Quote by BuiltIn
Hi guys, im looking to buy an electric guitar

-i live in canada, GTA region. would like to play guitar before buying it
- $400 budget, willing to go slightly over if its worth it.
- guitar will be used for metal/heavy genres, so humbucker pickups, mahogany/basswood body
-preferably no tremolo, unless it doesnt make tuning a hassle/ the guitar is a really good deal (will be drop tuning really low, like drop b)
- I do not require an amp, im using an interface to record and guitar rig 5 to get my tones.

I am currently looking at the Jackson Guitars - JS32 Dinky Arch Top from long and mcquade,(289.99) or the ibanez rg350dx (used from theguitarworld) for 299.99.
I was also looking at the RG421EX, but it seems to be out of stock everywhere .
(450)

Any input, suggestions or recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks!

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#7
Assuming you want a superstrat, get a Jackson MIJ DKMGT or similar. They don't usually sell in fantastic condition for $400, but its one of the best superstrats you can buy these days for that amount of money. They're amazing value. And they do tunings as low as drop B just fine.
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#8
Epiphone G400 Pro? The neck's not quite as slim as some of those Jacksons and super strats, but they seem to have a good rep. As for the Mockingbird st (you would want the STQ, actually), I would equate the necks somewhat to an Epiphone Les Paul Standard slim taper neck, but more slender and accessable on the higher end.
Last edited by OroborosYinYang at Feb 24, 2015,
#9
For $400. there are plenty of options out there..Ibenez does make a guitar..but if it was me..I would go for the Jackson! (I like them Damn Jackson/Charvels Myself!)
#10
Quote by trashedlostfdup
i wouldn't buy a ibanez with a tremolo for near that price, they just use shitty metal and the pivots wear. also, i don't think i would buy a licensed floyd from any brand, they probably aren't great either.

which is good because you are not looking into a floyd.

i would look for a used DKMGT, i had one and it was great. they go in your budget used.

or if you like LTD, a 400 series are nice (ideally not the 401) i haven't liked them as much though.

avoid dean in your budget.

are you set on a superstrat shape?


The appearance of the guitar doesn't matter to me, if the guitar is a good deal and plays well then I dont care. I do prefer the strat shape though.

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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LTD-EC-331-Eclipse-electric-guitar-in-black-with-hardshell-case-/171680486210?pt=Guitar&hash=item27f8f45342

that's about $400.

Or used PRS SE tremonti...built to be tuned down and pickups designed for it too.


the shipping and import costs bring it to well over 500.


looking at all the suggestions you guys gave, thanks for the input!
#11
whats wrong with the esp 401?
is the mh 50 any good?
sorry for the guitar spam.
I was able to find a IBANEZ RG321 MH for 250, a Yamaha RGX120D for 150, yamaha RGX 312 for 350, Jackson JS30DKT for 175, Ibanez SZ520QM 300, this jackson (unknown model)

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-buy-sell-other/mississauga-peel-region/jackson-guitar-400-obo/1052213139?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

I was not able to find godin redlines, but I did find this one:

https://www.long-mcquade.com/51052/Guitars/Electric/Godin_Guitars/Session_Series_Electric_Guitar_-_Trans_Red_High_Gloss_w_Gigbag.htm#Reviews-tab
#12
That Godin will be a very nicely built fat Strat. They're quality axes. They also have 22 frets and a trem.

The reason I recommended the Redlines, though, is that they're equipped with the kind of higher output pickups and 24 fret necks that are preferred for metal. The Session will sound more like a standard HSS Strat, the Redlines will sound more aggressive.

If you look around, you might also encounter a Godin Velocity. They're discontinued, but I still see NOS (new old stock) ones going for @$800, and used ones for @$400-450. Like the Session, its a HSS with a trem. Like the Redlines, it sports higher output pickups.

Another one to consider is the HSH Freeway. I see used ones on eBay @$300-500.

AFAIK, all Godins are made in Canada in just one or two factories. Very good QC.
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Feb 24, 2015,
#13
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That Godin will be a very nicely built fat Strat. They're quality axes. They also have 22 frets and a trem.

The reason I recommended the Redlines, though, is that they're equipped with the kind of higher output pickups and 24 fret necks that are preferred for metal. The Session will sound more like a standard HSS Strat, the Redlines will sound more aggressive.

If you look around, you might also encounter a Godin Velocity. They're discontinued, but I still see NOS (new old stock) ones going for @$800, and used ones for @$400-450. Like the Session, its a HSS with a trem. Like the Redlines, it sports higher output pickups.

Another one to consider is the HSH Freeway. I see used ones on eBay @$300-500.

AFAIK, all Godins are made in Canada in just one or two factories. Very good QC.


I will definitely consider a godwin then.

Are you guys sure the RG350DX isnt something to look at? I know it has the locking tremolo, but it retails for 550-600 here, used for 299.99.
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Quote by BuiltIn
I will definitely consider a godwin then.

Are you guys sure the RG350DX isnt something to look at? I know it has the locking tremolo, but it retails for 550-600 here, used for 299.99.


it depends how bad you want to stay in tune... especially if you use the tremolo on it.

ibanez makes great guitars, but their low end tremolo bridges suck. i would go for a hard tail ibanez and feel fine, or spend more and get something with a good tremolo, which isn't easily attainable with your budget.
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#15
IF you like the strat look, and if you're going to be doing a lot of downtuning, check out the Agile ST-630 EB 3TS Baritone. It's got a 30" scale, 24 frets, auto-toenail clipping function, etc. $400 plus shipping, case, recappable tire, etc.

http://www.rondomusic.com/st630eb3ts.html

Might want to check out a Septor 727 7-string (extended range PLUS a 27" scale ($289.95:

http://www.rondomusic.com/product6982.html
Last edited by dspellman at Feb 24, 2015,
#16
Quote by dspellman
IF you like the strat look, and if you're going to be doing a lot of downtuning, check out the Agile ST-630 EB 3TS Baritone. It's got a 30" scale, 24 frets, auto-toenail clipping function, etc. $400 plus shipping, case, recappable tire, etc.

http://www.rondomusic.com/st630eb3ts.html

Might want to check out a Septor 727 7-string (extended range PLUS a 27" scale ($289.95:

http://www.rondomusic.com/product6982.html

auto toe clipper? LOL
The agile looks nice, but not a fan of the single coils.

the 7 string doesn't look bad, however, I think Ive narrowed it down to 3 guitars at this point :Ibanez SZ520QM i found for 300, Jackson JS30DKT for 175 (seems like a great deal?), or the godin. (probably not getting the godin because the tremolo.)
#17
Quote by BuiltIn
auto toe clipper? LOL
The agile looks nice, but not a fan of the single coils.

the 7 string doesn't look bad, however, I think Ive narrowed it down to 3 guitars at this point :Ibanez SZ520QM i found for 300, Jackson JS30DKT for 175 (seems like a great deal?), or the godin. (probably not getting the godin because the tremolo.)


i would go with the ibanez. the s-series are pretty nice for the money.
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#18
One last suggestion from me- consider Fernandes. Their Dragonfly and Revolver models are both 24 fret hard rock machines. And if the clearance prices in their online store are good in Canada, they're quite a steal.

http://www.fernandesguitarshop.com/28-dragonfly

http://www.fernandesguitarshop.com/32-revolver
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Feb 24, 2015,
#19
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One last suggestion from me- consider Fernandes. Their Dragonfly and Revolver models are both 24 fret hard rock machines. And if the clearance prices in their online store are good in Canada, they're quite a steal.

http://www.fernandesguitarshop.com/28-dragonfly

http://www.fernandesguitarshop.com/32-revolver


Damn!
I might go and see if any local guitar shops have those so I can try them in person.
#20
Quote by BuiltIn
Damn!
I might go and see if any local guitar shops have those so I can try them in person.

Not likely they'll stock one. Fendandes is a relatively obscure brand. If you want to buy one, then chances are that your only option is to buy one blind online.
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#21
Hey guys, final decision is either the ibanez rg321 or the Jackson js32dkt. Every one else either didn't respond or I wasn't interested. Which guitar do you guys think is better?
#22
Quote by BuiltIn
I will definitely consider a godwin then.

Are you guys sure the RG350DX isnt something to look at? I know it has the locking tremolo, but it retails for 550-600 here, used for 299.99.


Not with the Edge 3 tremolo.
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#23
Quote by BuiltIn
Hey guys, final decision is either the ibanez rg321 or the Jackson js32dkt. Every one else either didn't respond or I wasn't interested. Which guitar do you guys think is better?

The RG321.

Its not an overwhelmingly awesome guitar, but everything it does do (apart from the pickups) it does pretty well.
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