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I'll start off right away with saying I don't know much about the specifics of this, so forgive my ignorance.

Now Bugera is the king of cloning amps, and the majority of their lineup is Peavey plus a couple JCMs and a Vox. Amps that are not particularly expensive to begin with. Most of these amps they are cloning are easily attainable within $1,000 which sadly isn't a whole lot for a brand new tube amp. So, why wouldn't they just go all out with it, Diesel, Soldano, Engl etc. all have amps in the four thousand dollar range. I understand that these companies probably use top of the line build quality and lots of R&D go into designing these amps, but once it's built, what's the difference? Does a SLO circuit cost that much more to copy than a JCM800 circuit? Bugera can still build the SLO to their own Sh***y standards with the same materials.

I just feel like I have to be missing something here, it just doesn't make any sense. If I was Bugera I'd be going after the top of the line stuff and selling it for 1/4 the price.
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They are going for bulk sales. Very few people are looking for those top end amps. They go for a share of the biggest market.
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They are going for bulk sales. Very few people are looking for those top end amps. They go for a share of the biggest market.


And because the amp is more expensive does not mean that is sounds better.
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Well the Bugera 6260 is a Peavey 5150/6505 clone which is a SLO clone, but the transformers in the SLO are made specifically for Soldano and no one else can get them. And the Tranny's are a very important part of the sound.
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Does a SLO circuit cost that much more to copy than a JCM800 circuit? Bugera can still build the SLO to their own Sh***y standards with the same materials.
The materials for an SLO cost a bit more than the materials for a JCM800, but the main reason is what cath explained - you want to appeal the people who aren't looking for top notch, uncommon stuff.
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Well the Bugera 6260 is a Peavey 5150/6505 clone which is a SLO clone
6505's have a quite similar pre but the power section is another thing, even if you leave the trannies out of the equation.
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6505's have a quite similar pre but the power section is another thing, even if you leave the trannies out of the equation.


I was just saying there kinda is a SLO amp they do.

But I don't fully agree about the reason to not make them and the market, but it does make a valid argument.

But not to Bugera bash, how many people have actually been in a store and saw new Bugera amps for sale? only store I have seen them at in the last 3 yrs is Sam Ash and Guitar Center, no small stores carry them after the first wave of bad amps. It seems they only sell online these days
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Agree with above. Most players have never played an Egl, Diesel or Soldano (I never have). Many have never even heard of them so it's all about marketing and what is considered generally popular.
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I am actually quite stunned that they are not making JCM800 clone. I mean they do have JCM900 DR and Plexi clones already, making a JCM800 version is only few changes away. Considering JCM800 is such a famous amp it would sell like hot cakes to poor guitarists. If they have to make some changes to original to avoid lawsuits add a PPIMV and Infinium system and they would be set.

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They are going for bulk sales. Very few people are looking for those top end amps. They go for a share of the biggest market.


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Agree with above. Most players have never played an Egl, Diesel or Soldano (I never have). Many have never even heard of them so it's all about marketing and what is considered generally popular.


this and what Cathbard said. bugera just goes for mass appeal. if any of those amps mentioned get huge i'm sure there will be a copy asap. if you look at Bugera and Behringer's business model you'll see that they thrive on making affordable copies of gear that appeals to begiinners. to the average 16 year old kid that has been playing for a couple of years $1000 is still a lot of $. bugera says hey you can get an amp that's just like ------ for half of that. oh and doesn't Jet city have the market cornered on soldano on a budget already?