#1
Still trying to determine the sound of active pups vs. passive.
Would Def Leppard's, "Hysteria" contain some examples of guitar with active pups?
Has a "thumpy" sound.
#2
I doubt one can tell the kind of pickups from listening to a record. Perhaps knowing what guitars they used at the time would be more indicative.
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I doubt one can tell the kind of pickups from listening to a record. Perhaps knowing what guitars they used at the time would be more indicative.


My bet is going to be with passive but this should be the best way of telling. Pickups are only a small part of the sound in this case anyway. The recording equipment and techniques of the time played a huge part in the sound too.
#5
It's a hard thing to determine by listening to records. Try playing them instead. What you hear from somebody else playing is one thing, but the experience of different pickups is also a lot about how they actually respond to your playing. I'd say that's much more important, even.
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#6
I can hear this "thoom-thoom-thoom-thoom" sound in much of the music I find appealing.
Thought this might be due to active pups. I like it.
#7
it's kind of hard to say because an awful lot of players will use an od pedal as a boost which sort of accomplishes a similar thing even with passive pickups. Not exactly identical, but enough that it's going to make listening for differences on records near enough futile (at least with ears like mine ).

Better idea might be looking up youtube vids. Maybe some people have made vids comparing actives to passives, without using boost pedals.

(Of course, you can use boost pedals with passives too. for super-brootalz (TM).)

EDIT: ^ are you sure that's not bass?
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Def Leppard used passives, so no actives won't help get their sound. But it doesn't mean you can't get an acceptable Deff Leppard tone either
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Def Leppard used passives, so no actives won't help get their sound. But it doesn't mean you can't get an acceptable Deff Leppard tone either


agree. as i recall DL used Rockman's to record that album with a bunch of other studio magic to go along with it.
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Quote by pointnplink
Still trying to determine the sound of active pups vs. passive.
Would Def Leppard's, "Hysteria" contain some examples of guitar with active pups?
Has a "thumpy" sound.


Probably not.

There's no distinctive sound of active pickups vs. passive. We're all used to EMGs being used for metal, but you need to understand that active pickups existed well before EMGs did and weren't/aren't necessarily designed to slam an amp's preamp section hard. Further, there are other active pickups besides EMGs/SDs and that NON active pickups are and have been used for metal and have a "thumpy" sound.

I have a set of Bartolini actives on a mid-70's guitar (Moonstone Vulcan) that are gorgeous. Several kinds of treble boost on them, a Varitone-like tone switch and much more. Carvin has had active preamps available for its pickups for decades, and they offer a much wider range of tonal boost and cut. They sound exactly like the passive versions of the pickups. Bass players have used active pickups for decades, too (Bartolini is only ONE of the manufacturers there), and metal isn't their mission at all.
#11
Better yet, get a preamp and actually have some diversity in your sound and not the muddy shit that is an EMG.
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#12
EMGs can be a quick fix for "sounding modern and heavy" but the facti s there are so many viariables to tone, chances are you are listening to people iwth classic PAF humbuckers and think tehy are EMGs all the time. with the right rig, anything can potentially sound heavy.

now, if you dont have the right setup, yeah, throwing in EMGs may be a drastic sounding change.

me personally, i am such a nerd i would go with standard non active pickups that suit the music i play and offer the response and EQ i want, and then carefully select my amp and rest of rig.

many high gain players are switching from actives to passive. first one off the tope of my head is misha mansoor using bare knuckle pickups. sometimes a good magnetic passive pickup is going to offer better response and dynamics, but its about picking the right one.

emgs dont really have the same flavors. the flavor is pretty much....EMG.
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#13
I've got an Ibanez (V7 and V8 passives) and an Epi futura (EMG actives), the sounds are pretty close, but then both types are tailored towards higher gain.

The only noticable difference in tone that I think I would attribute to active vs passive is that when the volume and gain are set the same on the amp, the active pickups are more distorted, ever so slightly.

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