#1
Basically, im just starting to hav my own analog pedals,
And im playing guitar for 9 years already. And i just used whatever multi effects available at church.
Anyway.....
i currently hav bosssd-1 and a boss dd3.
I get my wanted tones and swells just using these...
Im playing lead/ rhythm in a church setup....

Well, help please? what do i need most?
Another drive pedal or another delay pedal.....
thanks!
#2
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Basically, im just starting to hav my own analog pedals
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and a boss dd3.
The dd3 isn't analog tho.
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Well, help please? what do i need most?
Another drive pedal or another delay pedal...
Depends.

You sure as hell don't need any other distortion or delay pedal at this point though.

What sounds do you wanna achieve?
What's the rest of your setup?
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#3
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The dd3 isn't analog tho.
Depends.

You sure as hell don't need any other distortion or delay pedal at this point though.

What sounds do you wanna achieve?
What's the rest of your setup?

GTFO, you ALWAYS need more. Of. Everything.

But euanmigz, what Spambot_2 said.
A volume pedal for swells. I've heard that thats a popular effect for church players.
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What amp does your church/do you use?
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What sounds do you wanna achieve?
What's the rest of your setup?

+1

depends on what you want/need.
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#7
Well. Sorry for saying dd3 as analog. My mistake.

For volume pedal, i dont need those. I do swells using knob from my strat.
Im used to it. (As being a minimalist)

The sounds i achieve, ranges from blues-hard rock.

As for the amp, in church, i used the peavey envoy 110.
Cause it has clean and dirty channel.
It also has a revrb. Spring i think? Whatever. I just used its on-board verb anyways.

Now, what else do i need?
Help out guys
#8
Oh by the way, i need to achieve the tones of hillsong, planetshakers, bethel, etc.....
So im asking what pedal to add....
#9
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Oh by the way, i need to achieve the tones of hillsong, planetshakers, bethel, etc.....
So im asking what pedal to add....


I also play worship both acoustic and electric. Modern Christian contemporary is all about OD, tap delay, reverb, and compression. Sometimes ebow but really not much else. For these I like digital multi effects and have 3-4 patches set up that do pretty good emulation of Edge, Hillsong, Bethel lead stuff. Getting too experimental generally doesn't go over all that well in my experience.

If there is a song that vexes you, find out what their guitarist uses to get that sound. If you need a pedal to get there, buy one. Don't just go out and randomly load up a board without clear need and purpose.
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#10
i am currently running a zendrive>OCD>malekko 616>malekko 616 Lo-FI. does what i need. but analog delays aren't necessary the best for worship. tap tempo is better for scenarios like that.
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#11
Everyone is different, but I can tell you what I use for my worship setup - yours doesn't have to be the same but it will give you an idea of what you are looking for. Compressor - OD1 (light overdrive)-OD2 (heavier overdrive) - volume pedal - Delay1 - Delay2 - reverb-amp. Sometimes there is some variation a clean boost maybe, but that is the basic setup.

I would suggest for you that you don't bother with the dirty channel on your amp and instead get a couple of ODs. I run a Soul Food for the light OD - or sometimes even a slightly dirty clean tone, my second OD is a tube screamer type pedal - also set not very dirty - this gives you three levels of OD - OD1, OD2 and OD1+OD2 - should give you all the grit you need for worship music.

Delays - two delays will give you better swell sounds, you set them so that they are out of phase with each other and it gives you that nice washy oscillating swell. You want at least one delay to have tap tempo - the other can be a set and forget setup. I use an Ibanez DE7 and a Joyo D-SEED.

Also I think you will find that a volume pedal will open up your swells a lot as you can start the swell while you are strumming - which is a lot harder to do if you are using the guitar volume.

A compressor to me is a must for clean stuff, just makes your playing sound smoother but you can get by without it, reverb you said you use the amp, I think a volume pedal will impress you (all the guys you want to sound like use one) but again you can get by without. That being said leaves you with getting 1 additional OD and 1 additional delay.
#12
I play some stuff from those same bands in my church. A good delay is essential. I'm currently using a digitech hardwire delay, but that's just until I can afford something better that has a tap tempo switch and presets. It's nice to have presets so you can go from your full-level dotted eighth note delay to a more subtle delay, etc. etc.

An overdrive is the most essential (at least in my opinion). A couple of overdrives is always nice, and a distortion can be handy (especially for me, because I like to play heavy stuff). Your SD-1 should be good for church use. If you want another, there's a million great options. Soul Food, OCD, TS9, the list goes on for infinity. If you're on a tight budget (most church players are) you could take a look at Joyo.

Right at this moment I only have an overdrive and a distortion on my board. My second overdrive and distortion are currently in various stages of deconstruction in my workshop. My "secret weapon", though, is my crybaby wah pedal. I modified it so that I can use it as a volume boost, to boost my other dirt pedals, or as a volume pedal. I love that crybaby...
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#13
Just by reading and your opinions, i'd go for 2 od's and 2 delay's set-up?
Can 2 digital delays work well? 1 at 8th. And 1 in .8th?
#14
In my opinion, what you really need right now is a reverb pedal. Whether the amp reverb is good or not..if It's spring, for swelling sounds there is so much more out there.

I find I rarely find a use for spring reverb in my playing, I usually go for either a hall or plate reverb and use the mix for how much of a forefront sound i want.