#1
Hi,
Everything is in the title ...
Into a 30W all-tube combo, for playing metal at low tuning, with a better sensitivity.
Obviously, difficult to test all the models...
After some researches, it appears that Eminence's speakers could be a good solution, like the Governor and Swamp Thang models, with a "preference" for the latter.
There are also the Celestion Greenback and V30 models , but a little "over-priced " for what they really are, from what I've read .
Your opinions / experiences?
Thanx !
#2
I am a V30 fanboy but the Private Jack is pretty close at around 1/2 price. Worth a look.
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#3
Swamp Thang IMO. it's great for that bass you get from higher gauge strings.
Or a Vintage 30. That's the standard for metal.

I assume you have a Marshall DSL40C? They come with these stock.
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#4
You may like a g12-k100. Also look into WGS speakers, they are building quite a reputation.
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#5
Ok, thanx for the answers
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Swamp Thang IMO. it's great for that bass you get from higher gauge strings.
Or a Vintage 30. That's the standard for metal.

I assume you have a Marshall DSL40C? They come with these stock.

No, it's for upgrading a Laboga the beast.
I know V30 and Greenback are the standards, but as I said, maybe a little bit too expensive...
#6
I'm not a fan of v30's but for an amp like that it seems like the obvious speaker choice.
That is if, as I'm guessing, you mostly wanna play distorted stuff with it.

If you're low on cash simply get a WGS veteran 30.
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which amp?

what do you mean when you say "metal"?
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which amp?

what do you mean when you say "metal"?


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which amp?

what do you mean when you say "metal"?

The amp : laboga the beast
When I say metal, I mean stuff like Carcass, Gojira or Behemoth, for exemple.
#10
I gravitate towards Eminence V12 or Celestion G12h30 for heavy music depending on the amp. Greenbacks are cool for old school metal or when mixed with other speakers, but on their own I'd pass for anything past mid 80's
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#11
^^^ + ^^ thanks

that stuff's getting a bit heavier than I'm familiar with i'm with rob, greenbacks or even really g12h30s unless you're playing doom or something like that are probably not tight enough.

v30s are probably the safe choice. Or you can combine them with classic leads or g12k100s (i haven't tried the g12k100s) for more chunk. Other manufacturers may make cheaper versions of those speakers, as you've discovered yourself. I haven't tried them, though.
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#12
G12k100s are more on the bass side of things. I had to crank the mid and treble up on my JCA50H when i used my mates 2x12 loaded with them.

Great speakers though, I might pair one with something like a V30 though. ( Ive had several speakers over the years but always found myself coming back to a oversized 2x12 with V30s)
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G12k100s are more on the bass side of things. I had to crank the mid and treble up on my JCA50H when i used my mates 2x12 loaded with them.

Great speakers though, I might pair one with something like a V30 though. ( Ive had several speakers over the years but always found myself coming back to a oversized 2x12 with V30s)


+3.1415 i love my K85's, i have 12. they are the same as the K100's, they ****ing kick ass. i like them alone, and mixed with V30's.

but they are my favorite speaker.
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#14
If Celestion V30 is too expensive then Eminence Governor, WGS Retro 30 and WGS Veteran 30 are all different takes on V30 style speakers and cheaper. V30 variant is always a safe bet for metal. Celestion G12T75 (or Man-o-war or HM75 for Eminence and WGS variants) are for more extreme midrange-light styles, with more focus on low end thump and sharp treble, if that is your thing. I like both.

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+3.1415 i love my K85's, i have 12. they are the same as the K100's, they ****ing kick ass. i like them alone, and mixed with V30's.

but they are my favorite speaker.


Reading up on those k85's they sound like something i need to play now haha.

Deffo a good speaker to look into
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For infomartion, according to Eminence :
"The Governor and Swamp Thang are both much more efficient than a Seventy 80. The Governor has a classic British tone with tight, punchy lows, warm/thick mids, and warm, smooth highs. Swamp Thang is very clean, thick, and chunky with BIG, full lows, darker mids, and clear highs. It’s got really nice sustain and clarity. It’s our more popular choice for metal because of the thickness and well-defined lows."
The question is : in a small combo (dimensions (width x depth x height): 460 x 235 x 440 mm), is the replacement a really good improvement?
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For infomartion, according to Eminence :
"The Governor and Swamp Thang are both much more efficient than a Seventy 80. The Governor has a classic British tone with tight, punchy lows, warm/thick mids, and warm, smooth highs. Swamp Thang is very clean, thick, and chunky with BIG, full lows, darker mids, and clear highs. It’s got really nice sustain and clarity. It’s our more popular choice for metal because of the thickness and well-defined lows."
The question is : in a small combo (dimensions (width x depth x height): 460 x 235 x 440 mm), is the replacement a really good improvement?


I can verify that they are both outstanding speakers. I run a set of each crossed in a 4 X 12 cabinet. In combination, they provide everything I want out of a cabinet -- CRUSHING lows/low mids with a loud, powerful "grind" in the mids to upper mids -- without being harsh and ice-picky.

If it was a 1 x 12 and I had to pick one or the other, I'd probably go with a Governor. It has plenty of low end thump, but lots of rich, grinding mids. The Swamps have a thicker, chunkier low end, but the mids are not nearly as pronounced. It has smooth, musical highs though. That's why the two work very well together.