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#1
Hey guys, im looking for a new amp, I mainly play things like Motley Crue, Foreigner, Van Halen, and Ratt, but every once and a while I do play Megadeth, Anthrax, or newer stuff like Feared. My budgets about $800, im in the St Louis area, id prefer a combo but if the amps cool enough ill deal with a head and cab, (ill shell out a bit more if it is a head and cab) but a combo would be better for what I do, I am going to start playing live but we always mic it, so volume isnt a issue, but no more than 100 watts. I use pedals so an effects loop would be nice, I use an homemade frankenstrat with a seymour 78 custom, a jackson rhoads with blackouts, and an ESP eclipse with emg 57/66, Thanks.
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#2
marshal JCM2000 DSL401 and an OD.
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#3
5150/6505? Something Jet City with a boost if you're into the Soldano sound.
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#4
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5150/6505? Something Jet City with a boost if you're into the Soldano sound.


i think marshall would be more spot on than a 5150. when i think vanhalen i think marshall. i think that the 5150 could be a handicap for the other tones. jet city could be good, but from the ones i have had i wasn't a fan, but a lot of people like them
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that would be nice. you don't see a whole lot of SL-X's around. i haven't played one for a long time.

decent deal on the cab too.
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i think marshall would be more spot on than a 5150. when i think vanhalen i think marshall. i think that the 5150 could be a handicap for the other tones. jet city could be good, but from the ones i have had i wasn't a fan, but a lot of people like them


I have to disagree on this. I think when it comes to mid-range tube combos, the 6505/5150 kills anything Marshall has to offer. Just my opinion, but I think with an 800 dollar budget, a used 6505+ 112 combo ($350-$400) is the best bet because it leaves him plenty of room in the budget to grab a few pedals he'll need, like a TS9, a noise gate, and a good delay.
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Quote by BV-95
I have to disagree on this. I think when it comes to mid-range tube combos, the 6505/5150 kills anything Marshall has to offer. Just my opinion, but I think with an 800 dollar budget, a used 6505+ 112 combo ($350-$400) is the best bet because it leaves him plenty of room in the budget to grab a few pedals he'll need, like a TS9, a noise gate, and a good delay.


maybe for modern metal, but IMO not for the classic rock/metal that the OP is looking for.

I mainly play things like Motley Crue, Foreigner, Van Halen, and Ratt, but every once and a while I do play Megadeth, Anthrax, or newer stuff like Feared.


the bands he listed scream marshall at least to me. YMMV
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#9
Quote by trashedlostfdup
maybe for modern metal, but IMO not for the classic rock/metal that the OP is looking for.



I would say no matter what style OP is going for the 5150/6505 is going to win. I personally own the 6505 and with my Strat, I am able to get any sound I want out of it.

OP's best bet is to obviously try out as many amps as possible and figure out what works for him, but I just feel the 6505 is the best value unless you are trying to spend a couple grand on your rig.

EDIT: I would just like to add that, although anecdotal, I myself do NOT play modern metal and I am in love with the 6505, if that means anything.
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#10
Try researching both the Marshall and the 5150. EVH used a Marshall Plexi (right? something like that) not a 5150, although the 5150 is geared to get that tone easily. At least that's my impression of it Dunno what Mick used. I've only done research with these amps though.

Either way, both amps would work. I would suggest the 5150, you might be able to get some more br00tal tones out of it (for Megadeath) then the DSL.

You might want to also invest in Wampler's Plexi Drive pedal, to kick whatever combo you have into saturation.
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#11
The SL-X is a great amp and will do what you want. The only drawback is it is only 1 channel. But there is a pedal someone here has turned me onto that will give you a seprate cleen channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=S0Iydq7hs4A

I also suggest keeping an eye out for a Mesa Stiletto Ace 1x12 or a Peavey JSX 2x12
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#12
Quote by BV-95
I would say no matter what style OP is going for the 5150/6505 is going to win. I personally own the 6505 and with my Strat, I am able to get any sound I want out of it.

OP's best bet is to obviously try out as many amps as possible and figure out what works for him, but I just feel the 6505 is the best value unless you are trying to spend a couple grand on your rig.

EDIT: I would just like to add that, although anecdotal, I myself do NOT play modern metal and I am in love with the 6505, if that means anything.


no matter what style???

quite ignorant. i don't know how much experience you have with other amps and guitars but you don't have anything listed.

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OP a 6505+ may be more of what you want. play it and see. i am not biased towards marshall nor peavey. different amps. different tone. different is different.
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#13
Quote by Robbgnarly
The SL-X is a great amp and will do what you want. The only drawback is it is only 1 channel. But there is a pedal someone here has turned me onto that will give you a seprate cleen channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=S0Iydq7hs4A

I also suggest keeping an eye out for a Mesa Stiletto Ace 1x12 or a Peavey JSX 2x12


cool pedal. +1 on the JSX and stiletto.

this is what you can get out of a DSL with a boost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epBgcpcYRtI

but i would go for the SL-X if you can squeeze it.
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no matter what style???

quite ignorant. i don't know how much experience you have with other amps and guitars but you don't have anything listed.

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OP a 6505+ may be more of what you want. play it and see. i am not biased towards marshall nor peavey. different amps. different tone. different is different.


If you can name an amp that you can get for 400 or less used that beats the 6505 in any style of music, I would happy to hear it. The value of the 6505 and the range of tones it is able to acquire is astounding, even if you aren't playing modern metal.
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Quote by BV-95
If you can name an amp that you can get for 400 or less used that beats the 6505 in any style of music, I would happy to hear it. The value of the 6505 and the range of tones it is able to acquire is astounding, even if you aren't playing modern metal.

Peavey JSX 2x12, Peavey Ultra, peavey XXX, Marshall SL-X, JCM2000 DSL, Peavey VTM, Laney VC50, Laney VC100, Laney Ironheart, Vox AC15, Mesa DC2, Mesa DC3, Mesa Studio .22............and those are just the quick ones I can recall

I like the 5150/6505 and it works well in more than 1 situation, but your wrong all the amps I listed are better at 1 or more things than the 5150/6505.

Your post just shows your lack of experience
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Quote by BV-95
If you can name an amp that you can get for 400 or less used that beats the 6505 in any style of music, I would happy to hear it. The value of the 6505 and the range of tones it is able to acquire is astounding, even if you aren't playing modern metal.


ummm.. really? are you going to say that the clean channel will get you that sparkly fender tone? that either of the gain channels is going to get you early VH or something like Hendrix? sorry but not so much. while i agree that the 6505+ is a good amp and can do many things it's just not an all around amp.

many recommended a marshall cuz that is what the bands the OP mentioned were using. a Jet City is also closer to what they were using back then. you need that JCM 800 with an overdrive to really nail those tones.
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Quote by Robbgnarly
Peavey JSX 2x12, Peavey Ultra, peavey XXX, Marshall SL-X, JCM2000 DSL, Peavey VTM, Laney VC50, Laney VC100, Laney Ironheart, Vox AC15, Mesa DC2, Mesa DC3, Mesa Studio .22............and those are just the quick ones I can recall

I like the 5150/6505 and it works well in more than 1 situation, but your wrong all the amps I listed are better at 1 or more things than the 5150/6505.

Your post just shows your lack of experience


JSX 212: Right now the only JSX on ebay that I can find on the first page is $950. Care to show me the one going for less than 400?

Peavey Ultra: Searching peavey ultra only revealed a head going for under 400 on the first page.

Peavey XXX: Again, only seeing heads on the first page.

Marshall SL-X: All I can find for this amp on ebay are cases and posters.

Marshall JCM2000 DSL: The only one I can find on ebay going for less than 400 used is the DSL-1C. The rest are heads.

Peavey VTM: Again, just heads.

Laney VC50: Can't find any used ones on ebay, but the new cost even more than the 6505 does new.

Laney VC100: same story.

Laney Lionheart: None cheaper than 600 on ebay.

Vox AC15: FINALLY you actually met the criteria of less than $400! Okay, fine, the Vox AC15 can be purchased for 320 dollars on ebay right now from a particular user. But that being said, can you honestly say that the AC15 is anywhere near as versatile as they 6505? When it comes to entry level amps, you should be looking for versatility, not a one trick pony.

Mesa DC2: Can't find one on ebay right now. Help me out on this?

Mesa Studio .22: The only one I see on ebay right now is 1400 dollars.


In summary, literally only one of the amps you listed is even a combo within the same price range as the 6505.

Quote by monwobobbo
ummm.. really? are you going to say that the clean channel will get you that sparkly fender tone? that either of the gain channels is going to get you early VH or something like Hendrix? sorry but not so much. while i agree that the 6505+ is a good amp and can do many things it's just not an all around amp.

many recommended a marshall cuz that is what the bands the OP mentioned were using. a Jet City is also closer to what they were using back then. you need that JCM 800 with an overdrive to really nail those tones.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJg7io9HG6o

Excuse the horribad playing, I am an engineer first and a guitarist second.

If you can find me an amp going for 400 or less used that has a better clean sound and better psychedelic style overdrive than that, STOCK, then I will simply concede. I did this with no pedals, and recorded it from the direct line output of the 6505+ into my Scarlett 18i20 interface. No compression was added post-recorded, and the only EQ used was a high pass filter at around 70hz.
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#19
Edited this 2nd post into my above post. Didn't mean to double post, my bad.
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#21
Quote by NakedInTheRain
do you feel that clip is an accurate representation of your amp's sound?


A better player could likely have captured the style better, as those are absolutely 100% not the style of guitar I usually play, but since they are literally the 6505, I would say that they are an accurate representation of the 6505?

Edit: "they" and "those" being the clips
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#22
Quote by BV-95
A better player could likely have captured the style better, as those are absolutely 100% not the style of guitar I usually play, but since they are literally the 6505, I would say that they are an accurate representation of the 6505?


No offense, but that doesn't sound good. 6505's can sound better than that. But i don't know why you are in this bitch-fight about how the 6505 is the best amp for anything. Clearly you need more experience or an ear to tell how you are sounding.
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#23
Look at GC and Musicgoround not just ebay.
The amps might not always be available at those prices, or even available all the time but you can get them for $400 if your patient.

Peavey XXX $449
www.guitarcenter.com/Peavey-Used-Peavey-XXX-Super-40-Combo-Tube-Guitar-Combo-Amp-110546278-i3960608.gc

Peavey ultra 4x10 $349
www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-PEAVEY-ULTRA-410-4X10-COMBO-109905269-i3639417.gc

You can also find used Krank Chadwick and Rev 2x12 combos for $400ish all the time
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#24
okay. just wanted to make sure before i told you that the amp sounds awful. the clean tone is very trebly, overly scooped, and no bass at all. and the overdriven tone has nicer bass, but is fizz-city. even at $400, that amp sounds like it's a waste of money for a beginner.
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Quote by trashedlostfdup
No offense, but that doesn't sound good. 6505's can sound better than that. But i don't know why you are in this bitch-fight about how the 6505 is the best amp for anything. Clearly you need more experience or an ear to tell how you are sounding.


I said its the best amp for everything?

Oh, my bad, I see now what is going on here. You are mistaking my claim that the Peavey 6505 is the best value for under 400 dollars to mean that it is the best amp for everything.

I would also appreciate a proper response to my post regarding your list of amps, as only 1 of them actually seemed to meet the criteria of being a combo <400 dollars.

And I'm sure it can sound way better than that. The point of this clip wasn't to suggest that the 6505 has the best cleans or the best fuzz. The point of the clip was to show that it can do cleans and fuzz, despite what others may say, and its ability to do cleans, fuzz, and heavy distortion all in 1 package, and do them all rather decently, for less than 400 dollars, makes this amp a ****ing bargain.

Quote by trashedlostfdup
No offense, but that doesn't sound good. 6505's can sound better than that. But i don't know why you are in this bitch-fight about how the 6505 is the best amp for anything. Clearly you need more experience or an ear to tell how you are sounding.


Again, please show me something that for less than 400 dollars has better cleans and better stock fuzz. This is just a quick clip I threw together to showcase that the amp is capable of achieving those tones. I didn't say the cleans are going to sound like a 2000 dollar Fender amp, but I am sticking to my claim that the amp is capable of achieving cleans and fuzz and do them very decently.
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#26
Quote by BV-95
JSX 212: Right now the only JSX on ebay that I can find on the first page is $950. Care to show me the one going for less than 400?

Peavey Ultra: Searching peavey ultra only revealed a head going for under 400 on the first page.

Peavey XXX: Again, only seeing heads on the first page.

Marshall SL-X: All I can find for this amp on ebay are cases and posters.

Marshall JCM2000 DSL: The only one I can find on ebay going for less than 400 used is the DSL-1C. The rest are heads.

Peavey VTM: Again, just heads.

Laney VC50: Can't find any used ones on ebay, but the new cost even more than the 6505 does new.

Laney VC100: same story.

Laney Lionheart: None cheaper than 600 on ebay.

Vox AC15: FINALLY you actually met the criteria of less than $400! Okay, fine, the Vox AC15 can be purchased for 320 dollars on ebay right now from a particular user. But that being said, can you honestly say that the AC15 is anywhere near as versatile as they 6505? When it comes to entry level amps, you should be looking for versatility, not a one trick pony.

Mesa DC2: Can't find one on ebay right now. Help me out on this?

Mesa Studio .22: The only one I see on ebay right now is 1400 dollars.


In summary, literally only one of the amps you listed is even a combo within the same price range as the 6505.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJg7io9HG6o

Excuse the horribad playing, I am an engineer first and a guitarist second.

If you can find me an amp going for 400 or less used that has a better clean sound and better psychedelic style overdrive than that, STOCK, then I will simply concede. I did this with no pedals, and recorded it from the direct line output of the 6505+ into my Scarlett 18i20 interface. No compression was added post-recorded, and the only EQ used was a high pass filter at around 70hz.


Peavey Valveking and Classic 30 both have better cleans and defintitely can be found for $400 or less. as for psychodelic sounds those rely on fuzz not pream distortion. you can certainly find a few Fender amps used for $400 or less that have better cleans as well.

as for your Ebay answers dude that isn't the only place you can find amps. try the used section of Guitar Center's site, craigslist etc. bottom line is that while the 6505+ is easier to find than some of the amps mentioned , they still can be found.

your clip doesn't prove much as the true quality of a clean channel is found at band volumes. can it stay clean and is the sound good. you're not gonna get that from a line out.

obviously you love your amp which is fine but sometimes you do have to get real. i use both a Peavey Ultra and a Valveking. both good amps but i would never say that either is the be all end all amp in their price range. they work for me which is what counts.
#27
Quote by BV-95
I said its the best amp for everything?

Oh, my bad, I see now what is going on here. You are mistaking my claim that the Peavey 6505 is the best value for under 400 dollars to mean that it is the best amp for everything.

I would also appreciate a proper response to my post regarding your list of amps, as only 1 of them actually seemed to meet the criteria of being a combo <400 dollars.

And I'm sure it can sound way better than that. The point of this clip wasn't to suggest that the 6505 has the best cleans or the best fuzz. The point of the clip was to show that it can do cleans and fuzz, despite what others may say, and its ability to do cleans, fuzz, and heavy distortion all in 1 package, and do them all rather decently, for less than 400 dollars, makes this amp a ****ing bargain.


Again, please show me something that for less than 400 dollars has better cleans and better stock fuzz. This is just a quick clip I threw together to showcase that the amp is capable of achieving those tones. I didn't say the cleans are going to sound like a 2000 dollar Fender amp, but I am sticking to my claim that the amp is capable of achieving cleans and fuzz and do them very decently.

Yeah that is what everyone has taken it as, because that is what you said.

My list of amps and like I said you might not find them all right now at those prices, but they can be had for that price. Patience is a key factor when wanting to get a great deal.

Not a fan of the tone in your recording, but keep up the work
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#28
Quote by Robbgnarly
Yeah that is what everyone has taken it as, because that is what you said.

My list of amps and like I said you might not find them all right now at those prices, but they can be had for that price. Patience is a key factor when wanting to get a great deal.

Not a fan of the tone in your recording, but keep up the work


Please show me where I said that the 6505 is literally the best amplifier for everything, and NOT that it is the best amp in the price range?

Look, and at the end of the day, all of this is obviously subjective. I personally like the 6505s cleans and low/mid gain tones in addition to its high gain tones, which is why I am defending it. At the end of the day, like I said several posts ago, OP needs to go to guitar center or something and try out a bunch of amps and see what he likes.

Quote by BV-95
I have to disagree on this. I think when it comes to mid-range tube combos, the 6505/5150 kills anything Marshall has to offer. Just my opinion, but I think with an 800 dollar budget, a used 6505+ 112 combo ($350-$400) is the best bet because it leaves him plenty of room in the budget to grab a few pedals he'll need, like a TS9, a noise gate, and a good delay.


As you see here, this entire time I have been a contender that the 6505 is the best amp in the price range, not overall.
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#29
Quote by BV-95
Again, please show me something that for less than 400 dollars has better cleans and better stock fuzz. This is just a quick clip I threw together to showcase that the amp is capable of achieving those tones. I didn't say the cleans are going to sound like a 2000 dollar Fender amp, but I am sticking to my claim that the amp is capable of achieving cleans and fuzz and do them very decently.

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#30
This is lulz. i don't even know what to say anymore.
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#31
Quote by BV-95
Please show me where I said that the 6505 is literally the best amplifier for everything, and NOT that it is the best amp in the price range?

Look, and at the end of the day, all of this is obviously subjective. I personally like the 6505s cleans and low/mid gain tones in addition to its high gain tones, which is why I am defending it. At the end of the day, like I said several posts ago, OP needs to go to guitar center or something and try out a bunch of amps and see what he likes.


As you see here, this entire time I have been a contender that the 6505 is the best amp in the price range, not overall.


This is from your post:

I would say no matter what style OP is going for the 5150/6505 is going to win.

Now how do you take that when you read it? Besides, OP has an $800 budget which opens up insane amounts of great combo's for his budget
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#32
Quote by BV-95
I would say no matter what style OP is going for the 5150/6505 is going to win.


dude this is the line that got this going and what you are being called out on.
#33
Quote by Robbgnarly
This is from your post:

I would say no matter what style OP is going for the 5150/6505 is going to win.

Now how do you take that when you read it? Besides, OP has an $800 budget which opens up insane amounts of great combo's for his budget



Out of context, yes, that post makes it seem like I am saying the 6505 is the best amp in the world. But put it into context and you will see that what I am saying is that with his budget, it is the best amplifier choice, in my opinion. Even with an 800 dollar budget I find the 6505 a better choice because that gives him a very capable amplifier for the style and gives him headroom to buy any pedals he will find necessary, or replace the tubes if he decides to go used. I also suggest replacing the stock speaker with a V30.
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#34
Quote by BV-95
Out of context, yes, that post makes it seem like I am saying the 6505 is the best amp in the world. But put it into context and you will see that what I am saying is that with his budget, it is the best amplifier choice, in my opinion. Even with an 800 dollar budget I find the 6505 a better choice because that gives him a very capable amplifier for the style and gives him headroom to buy any pedals he will find necessary, or replace the tubes if he decides to go used. I also suggest replacing the stock speaker with a V30.

he has pedals already, dude....pretty sure that frees him from the $400 budget you've imposed on him. plus why bother buying cheap and replacing everything straight away than buying something decent to begin with? you have a fender and not a squier for a reason, no?
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#35
Your opinion is wrong.
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#36
Quote by BV-95
Out of context, yes, that post makes it seem like I am saying the 6505 is the best amp in the world. But put it into context and you will see that what I am saying is that with his budget, it is the best amplifier choice, in my opinion. Even with an 800 dollar budget I find the 6505 a better choice because that gives him a very capable amplifier for the style and gives him headroom to buy any pedals he will find necessary, or replace the tubes if he decides to go used. I also suggest replacing the stock speaker with a V30.


You like your amp, but how much experience with any of the amps that have been talked about do you have? That is where your coming into this wrong. Trust me get some years of playing under your belt and you will understand.

And having an opinion is fine, but you also need to be open-minded when giving good solid advise here
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#37
Quote by NakedInTheRain
he has pedals already, dude....pretty sure that frees him from the $400 budget you've imposed on him.


All he said was "I use pedals". That doesn't tell us what pedals he has. In my opinion, the 6505+ really calls for an Ibanez TS9 and a nice EQ pedal, which he may not even have.

400 for the 6505 + 100 for the TS9 + ~100 for an EQ of choice + 150 for a celestion V30 = 750 dollars. If he decides to go used on either of the pedals, or doesn't need 1 or either of them, then that frees up even more budget to buy tubes, since it is often suggested that you replace the tubes of any tube amp you buy used, and then keep the ones that came with it used as a spare.
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#38
oh sorry, my mistake. you see when he said he plays hair metal, i should have assumed the pedals he owns are along the lines of an EHX ring thing, a DBA fuzz war, a lovetone meatball, and a boss FRV-1 spring reverb, instead of the more logical assumption that he would have at least a boost and a delay already.

and stop harping on about how he needs all this stuff to make the 6505 sound great. i'm assuming you have all these things and have replaced everything in your amp? guess what, it still sounds like shit. now sod off and let with people who have played more than a few amps in their lives give out the recs.
#39
Quote by NakedInTheRain
oh sorry, my mistake. you see when he said he plays hair metal, i should have assumed the pedals he owns are along the lines of an EHX ring thing, a DBA fuzz war, a lovetone meatball, and a boss FRV-1 spring reverb, instead of the more logical assumption that he would have at least a boost and a delay already.

and stop harping on about how he needs all this stuff to make the 6505 sound great. i'm assuming you have all these things and have replaced everything in your amp? guess what, it still sounds like shit. now sod off and let with people who have played more than a few amps in their lives give out the recs.


Someone's getting upset

I haven't done any of those mods to my amp, I don't have any pedals and I still have the stock speaker and tubes*. Like I said in an earlier post, I am an engineer first and a guitarist second. Most of my income goes towards my studio rather than my guitar rig.

EDIT: By "stock" I mean the tubes that came with it when I bought it used a few months ago, they are due for a replacement soon I can tell.
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#40
Quote by BV-95
All he said was "I use pedals". That doesn't tell us what pedals he has. In my opinion, the 6505+ really calls for an Ibanez TS9 and a nice EQ pedal, which he may not even have.

400 for the 6505 + 100 for the TS9 + ~100 for an EQ of choice + 150 for a celestion V30 = 750 dollars. If he decides to go used on either of the pedals, or doesn't need 1 or either of them, then that frees up even more budget to buy tubes, since it is often suggested that you replace the tubes of any tube amp you buy used, and then keep the ones that came with it used as a spare.


or he could find an amp that already has a good stock speaker and eq section. you can go in circles on this forever but it's kinda pointless. no one here is suggesting that the 6505+ combo is a bad amp or couldn't do the job. is it the best option for what the OP wants, maybe not. this is key to giving good advice on forums like this. you can't be all "fan boy" about things. the 6505+ get recommended for modern metal here all the time to the point whee it needs to be an auto response. not sure how old you are or how long you've been playing. for those of us that were around back in the 80s maybe, just maybe we have a better insight on getting those tones.
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