#1
Hey Guys, I have an ESP EC-1000 and and a Peavey 6505+ Combo Amp and I play cleans through a VOX Pathfinder 10 (I love the neck pickup position through the VOX, it's a thick creamy sound). I like to play heavy sounding riffs and like a fatter sound all around. I've recently been on a huge Stoner Metal kick listening to alot of High on Fire, The Sword, Orange Goblin etc...

I plan on getting a Gibson 70's Tribute just because of the price and quality will be perfect to go toe-to-toe with a stoner tone. But in the mean time I would love to grab a fuzz pedal... and I'm stuck between the Way Huge Swollen Pickle, and the Black Arts LSTR... Any thoughts? I want to get a thick, fat sound that crushes my bottom end but without losing tone.

Thanks for the help.
#4
Quote by clickclickbooml
Not a fan, doesn't really have that tone I'm looking for.

No worries, just thought I'd throw another option at you

I have heard good things about the Blackout FX Musket fuzz.

The Swollen Pickle is nice, not to familiar with the other one
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#5
I have a swollen pickle, very versatile, I use it for Sabbath. Basically I just suggest getting any muff variant with at least the addition of a mid control. Hoof, Colossus, Musket, LSTR, etc. Musket has the most control of any muff variant I've seen.
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#6
Quote by clickclickbooml
Hey Guys, I have an ESP EC-1000 and and a Peavey 6505+ Combo Amp and I play cleans through a VOX Pathfinder 10 (I love the neck pickup position through the VOX, it's a thick creamy sound). I like to play heavy sounding riffs and like a fatter sound all around. I've recently been on a huge Stoner Metal kick listening to alot of High on Fire, The Sword, Orange Goblin etc...



What about Trouble? They are my favorite doom/stoner band. What is the best way to get that angel-crying tone, in your opinion?
#7
The LSTR is a good chice, as is the Black Forest. And you might want to also look at the Sarcophagus, since that combines the LSTR and Pharaoh in one enclosure. It even has a switch to let you send the LSTR into the Pharaoh and vice versa, if you want.

Catwlinbread offers the Sabra Cadabra, which is worth a look.
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#8
The Sarcophagus definitely spiked my interests... I just don't have that money to drop on a pedal at this time. But the Musket seems the best way to go in your opinions?
#9
It is a good Fuzz, but not cheap ($195) either
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#10
yeah, muskets used to be around 175-185, went up in price recently to 195. Used you can find them occasionally on Craigslist (saw one in my area at $120) and reverb.com (130-150, shipping varying).
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#11
isn't the musket a muff clone w/ more knobs? The Pickle is IIRC.
if you like that sound why not look into the plain old big muff.

other things to look into are the Wilson Effects fuzz's :

There’s the STONED Grasshopper, which is a Fuzz, an OD and a clean Boost all in one.

http://www.wilsoneffects.com/StonedGrasshopper.html

The Dirty beaver is a triangle muff clone with toggles that ‘alter the gain structure of the pedal by switch 2 sets of
diodes in and out of the circuit’
http://www.wilsoneffects.com/DirtyBeaver.html

theres also a Ram’s Head version.
The meat grinder is muff based I believe
http://www.wilsoneffects.com/MeatGrinder.html
Threes the Uber Fubar, which is based on a Burns Buzzaround http://www.wilsoneffects.com/UberFubar.html



The VZEX fuzzulo, Fuzz factory and mastodon might be up you alley too.
I'll also mention Devi Ever. They have some wicked fuzzes.
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#12
I'll +1 a Mastotron. I have a friend into the sludge/stoner scene and he loves that one. I can just get those tones out of my Laney.
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#13
i use an Akai DR3 fuzz for that Electric Wizard stoner doom sound. it has a muff style option as well as a vintge fuzz option (not a fuzz face forget what it's patterned after) you can combine the2 as well for total fuzz mayhem
#15
I have never had any desire whatsoever for a new fuzz after getting my Earthquaker Hoof. It is absolutely monstrous. (Coincidentally, I also used to run it through a 6505's rhythm channel.)
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#17
Quote by NakedInTheRain
i agree, the hoof is goddamn amazing. only sold mine because it doesn't do the muff mid-scoop very well.

Can you scoop out more mids than the stock amount in a regular muff? I was considering one to reduce the space my Swollen pickle takes up.
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#18
Quote by Maidenheadsteve
Can you scoop out more mids than the stock amount in a regular muff? I was considering one to reduce the space my Swollen pickle takes up.

i don't think so, i think it just takes it back to stock scoop. which is still pretty scooped.

keep in mind the hoof sounds a lot different to a regular muff. if you want a more traditional and versatile muff, i can personally recommend the basic audio tri ram muff. really sweet sounding and has a powerful mid control in both directions - so you can acoop it more than muffs usually go.
#19
Thanks for all the help guy's I think I've Narrowed my decision based on your feedback Going to look into the Pharoah
#20
i would go musket or hoof.
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