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#1
Evening guys!
I'm looking for my first guitar amp! I've just bought A PRS electric, and need a decent amp to go with it! I play stuff like Seether, A7X, and various other bands!

I've been looking at the Fender Champion 100! Is that okay for metal or?

My budget is around 400 dollars!
#2
At 400 dollars, for modern metal, either find a used 6505 combo or buy an iPad and get Positive Grid JamUp if you want to go digital and do a recording project.

But seriously, for modern metal, there is no better value than a used 6505. It does modern metal to the letter and does other rock genres (90s grunge, 80s thrash/hair metal, prog metal, etc) justice as well.
Fender MIM Strat HSS (DiMarzio Crunch Lab)
Peavey 6505+ 112

If you want, I can mix/master your tracks for free just so I can practice and who knows, maybe you'll love what you hear! Hit me up.
#3
Since you're a beginner a Peavey Vypir 30 or a Vypir Tube-60 or 120.
If you're a beginner, how the hell did you get a PRS!?
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#4
Quote by Fryderyczek
Since you're a beginner a Peavey Vypir 30 or a Vypir Tube-60 or 120.
If you're a beginner, how the hell did you get a PRS!?

He probably paid for it
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#5
Quote by Fryderyczek
Since you're a beginner a Peavey Vypir 30 or a Vypir Tube-60 or 120.
If you're a beginner, how the hell did you get a PRS!?


Not sure how one is related to the other?

The guitar you purchase isn't dictated by your experience level, it's dictated by your wallet.
“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”
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#6
Quote by Arby911
Not sure how one is related to the other?

The guitar you purchase isn't dictated by your experience level, it's dictated by your wallet.

True, but I'd understand if TS played acoustic and then electric. But paying that much money(I'm assuming a lot) for a starter guitar is pointless IMO.

But still, at least he'll have a good guitar for starters.
Well, you can call me crazy
You can call me wrong, 'cause
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Fly on, fly on
#7
Quote by Fryderyczek
True, but I'd understand if TS played acoustic and then electric. But paying that much money(I'm assuming a lot) for a starter guitar is pointless IMO.

But still, at least he'll have a good guitar for starters.


PRS SE models aren't that expensive and can be had pretty cheap used in the US. keep in mind that many who post here are in the US where this kind of stuff is A - cheaper and B- more plentiful.

oh and a used 6505+ combo used is your best bet if not than a Vypyr. fender is not exactly known for metal and honestly doesn't make any that are really suited for it (they do make the EVH series but that is a seperate thing).
Last edited by monwobobbo at Apr 2, 2015,
#8
Quote by Fryderyczek
True, but I'd understand if TS played acoustic and then electric. But paying that much money(I'm assuming a lot) for a starter guitar is pointless IMO.

But still, at least he'll have a good guitar for starters.

My son's first guitar is a PRS CE22

You probably don't wanna know what he has for an amp at 4 1/2yrs old
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#9
Quote by Fryderyczek
True, but I'd understand if TS played acoustic and then electric. But paying that much money(I'm assuming a lot) for a starter guitar is pointless IMO.

But still, at least he'll have a good guitar for starters.


I'm of the opinion you should buy the nicest guitar you can afford, that way you've already invested in the process and since it's likely to play quite well you are less likely to get pissed off and quit, unlike with some of the raw lumber and tree limbs POS "starter" guitars that are foisted off on the unsuspecting newbie.

Besides, if beginners buy nice guitars and then quit, I get to buy them at a greatly reduced price, so SHUT YO' MOUF'!!

“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”
Charles Darwin
#10
Quote by monwobobbo
PRS SE models aren't that expensive and can be had pretty cheap used in the US. keep in mind that many who post here are in the US where this kind of stuff is A - cheaper and B- more plentiful.

Oh, he played bass and acoustic. Now I understand.
Also, he's from Denmark.
But still, let's get back to helping him.
Well, you can call me crazy
You can call me wrong, 'cause
See I was born a liar, albatross
Fly on, fly on
#11
Been playing acoustic for some years now.

Thing is... They do not sell Peavey amps on Thomann.de
Last edited by Gingerlocks at Apr 2, 2015,
#12
Quote by Robbgnarly
You probably don't wanna know what he has for an amp at 4 1/2yrs old






+311 for the 6505+ or Vypyr Tube 60.


*You can only buy Vypyr 60s used these days and they go for around $250 - $350 - just sayin'.


Also, I somewhat disagree with Arby on the 'buy the best guitar you can afford first' thing. I put all of my gear money into amps and I get by fine with a $450 MIM Strat and a $299 Schecter C1+
#13
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH



+311 for the 6505+ or Vypyr Tube 60.


*You can only buy Vypyr 60s used these days and they go for around $250 - $350 - just sayin'.


Also, I somewhat disagree with Arby on the 'buy the best guitar you can afford first' thing. I put all of my gear money into amps and I get by fine with a $450 MIM Strat and a $299 Schecter C1+

I bought my first guitar in a supermarket for 25 pounds. That's like what, 40USD?
Well, you can call me crazy
You can call me wrong, 'cause
See I was born a liar, albatross
Fly on, fly on
#14
Why not get a good guitar first? I used my first guitar gigging after one year of playing and for the next 10 years or so. Cost me $400 in 1981. A PRS would have been even better. Not everybody takes years and years to get good.


Check ebay for a 6505 or a Vyper tube.
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#16
It will probably mostly be for my bedroom, and playing in a practice room with some buddies.
My budget is around the... 450 dollars.
#17
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH



+311 for the 6505+ or Vypyr Tube 60.


*You can only buy Vypyr 60s used these days and they go for around $250 - $350 - just sayin'.


Also, I somewhat disagree with Arby on the 'buy the best guitar you can afford first' thing. I put all of my gear money into amps and I get by fine with a $450 MIM Strat and a $299 Schecter C1+


I think really good instruments help you play better and make you improve more...

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#18
Quote by Badmotorfingers
I think really good instruments help you play better and make you improve more...

My 0.02c


I feel the same. I'm not saying go out and spend 3k on your first Axe, but generally nicer guitars play better, and make it easier to learn. At least for me.

Jet City Amps may be worth taking a look at.
Guitars:
PRS Custom 24
Gibson Les Paul 60's Tribute
85' MIJ Strat
97' Snakepit Les Paul
LP Traditional 1960 Zebra
MIJ Tele
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Peavey Ultra 112
Jet City JCA50H
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74' Vibro Champ
#19
For $450 you could get the Jet City 20w head and matching 1x12 cab at Thomann. I'd do that.
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#21
Quote by Gingerlocks

Decent. the V series of Bugera amps is actually decently build, compared to the other models.
But it won't do metal. Look at a Jet City 22H and a Harley Benton 1x12 Vintage/2x12 Vintage.
If you can't get that then if you fancy some solid state then a Randall RG80(A smaller version of the RG1503H)
Well, you can call me crazy
You can call me wrong, 'cause
See I was born a liar, albatross
Fly on, fly on
#22
In Europe I'd check out the Laney Ironheart series. That should cover all you're asking for plus more.

Used Engl would be great too if you can find one close.

Modelers are normally recommended as first amps nowadays but it all depends what you're after.
Guitars:
Jackson Kelly KE3 - MIJ (Distortion/Jazz)
Jackson DKMGT Dinky (EMG 81/85)
ESP E-II Eclipse Custom (JB/'59)
ESP LTD EC-1001FR (EMG 81/60)
Fender MIM Strat

Amps:
Mesa/Boogie Dual Rectifier Roadster 212
Laney IronHeart IRT-Studio
Peavey Vypyr 30
Peavey ReValver Amp Sims
TOOOO many T.C. Electronic Pedals. . .
#23
Quote by metalmingee
In Europe I'd check out the Laney Ironheart series. That should cover all you're asking for plus more.

Used Engl would be great too if you can find one close.

Modelers are normally recommended as first amps nowadays but it all depends what you're after.

Used ENGL would be perfect but they cost just too much for someone with 400usd

Ironheart would be good as well.
Well, you can call me crazy
You can call me wrong, 'cause
See I was born a liar, albatross
Fly on, fly on
#25
Quote by Gingerlocks
I like the looks of the Randall RG80! Will that do me good?

Yep. The gain channel can do death metal without a boost, so you can imagine how much gain it has.
For A7X you'd need to turn it about quarter of the way.
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You can call me wrong, 'cause
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Fly on, fly on
#27
Quote by Gingerlocks
I like the looks of the Randall RG80! Will that do me good?


No it sucks, is there anything second hand in your area?
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#28
Quote by Gingerlocks
Also your typical rock songs? I like some of Nickelbacks riffs?

The Randall does Pantera type gain great, but is very limited in good tones it can produce. If you want a versatile amp I advise looking at something else
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#29
Quote by Badmotorfingers
No it sucks, is there anything second hand in your area?

Bullshit. I highly doubt you played it.

It won't do Nickleback or any of that stuff TS.


EDIT:It can do rock songs, but you'd need to dick around a bit with it.
Well, you can call me crazy
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Fly on, fly on
Last edited by Fryderyczek at Apr 3, 2015,
#30
Quote by Fryderyczek
Bullshit. I highly doubt you played it.

It won't do Nickleback or any of that stuff TS.


have you played all the amps you talk about? dude is entitled to his opinion whether you agree or not. not an amp i thnk much of either for that matter. sorry but Dime was a good player but i hated his tone.
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Quote by monwobobbo
have you played all the amps you talk about? dude is entitled to his opinion whether you agree or not. not an amp i thnk much of either for that matter. sorry but Dime was a good player but i hated his tone.

I hated his tone as well so I don't see what you mean.

You along with a shit ton other people haven't played all the gear you recommend, so I don't see what you're talking about.
Well, you can call me crazy
You can call me wrong, 'cause
See I was born a liar, albatross
Fly on, fly on
#32
Quote by Fryderyczek
I hated his tone as well so I don't see what you mean.

You along with a shit ton other people haven't played all the gear you recommend, so I don't see what you're talking about.


i rarely recommend things i haven't tried. dude i'm in the US and have more than 1 good sized music stores all within 20 miles of me (Guitar Center, House of Guitars etc). i make it a point of going in and trying guitars, amps and pedals that i haven't used before. been playing for over 35 years don't you think i might have tried a few things or owned them as well? you don't see me on threads like which 8 string giving advice, why, cuz i've only played 2 of those for a few minutes just to say i did. plenty of guys here do the same thing and own an even bigger pile of gear than i do. think before you call people out don't just ASSume we don't know what we are talking about.
#33
I think RG's suck too. Good for Pantera but that's about it.
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#34
Quote by Fryderyczek
Bullshit. I highly doubt you played it.

It won't do Nickleback or any of that stuff TS.


EDIT:It can do rock songs, but you'd need to dick around a bit with it.


Quote by Fryderyczek
I hated his tone as well so I don't see what you mean.

You along with a shit ton other people haven't played all the gear you recommend, so I don't see what you're talking about.



Wow, you're an asshole man.

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I think RG's suck too. Good for Pantera but that's about it.


Exactly.
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#36
It sounds bad. Fizzy, thin, SS piece of crap.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#38
Orange tube amps are great. The Crushes are rubbish.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
#40
Jet City are good.
Gilchrist custom
Yamaha SBG500
Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band
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