#1
Hello all,
I play guitar and sing lead vocals in a band (hobbyist) and have been amplifying both my guitar and my microphone through the same bass amp. I put my guitar and and my microphone into two inputs of a Numark MX190 DJ Preamp mixer that I would then send to the input of my Peavey Deltabass head. It worked okay, but honestly the Numark is big and bulky and not really designed for this sort of thing. I'm selling it on eBay and looking for a simpler solution.

Should I get a little mixer like this? http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/802
Or should I go for guitar/vocal pedal like this? http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicetone-harmony-g-xt/

Or is there another option specifically designed for this sort of thing? I would like to be able to adjust the EQ of my voice a bit. If there's reverb and/or delay and/or compressor included, that would be amazing!

I realize putting guitar and vocals through the same amp isn't the best for sound quality, but I can't afford a 2nd speaker.

Thanks for your help!
Last edited by EddieWan at Apr 5, 2015,
#3
Nothing good will happen trying to run vocals and guitar through a bass amp. Both could be run through this with a POD or other DME for guitar tone. Right tools for the job.

http://carvinaudio.com/products/pm12a-molded-2-way-12-inch-powered-loudspeaker-monitor?product=PM12A

Another one that is a bit nicer and a bit more $$
http://www.electrovoice.com/zlx/
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#4
The main thing is to separate your guitar from your vocals. They are battling for frequencies, and bass amps aren't known for their good use of high frequencies. If you can afford the TC Helicon, than you should be able to afford this:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/kustom-pa-kpc12mp-12-powered-monitor-speaker?rNtt=powered%20monitor&index=2

I'm guessing that saving for a PA is probably not in the cards at this point. This is probably your best solution until you can afford to start piecing together a PA.
#5
Guys, thanks, but that's not what I was asking for.
This is for a practice situation. I've been putting my vocals and guitar through the same amp for years. We aren't expecting to gig anytime soon, so I more or less just need to be amplified at this point.
#6
Until you're prepared to buy the proper equipment, you might as well stick with what you've got.

You're looking at making an amp do two completely separate things, neither of which is the thing your amp was designed for. You might as well be trying to tighten 2 screws with a hammer.
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#7
Yep, you're trying to get a bass amp to go two things, and it was designed to do neither. Much less both at the same time.

Sorry I know that's not what you want to hear but it's the right answer. Same as everyone else, you need a PA. And a guitar amp apparently...

Check at pawn shops and some music stores have used equipment on consignment, a small PA that will handle vocals for practice should not cost a fortune, but that's what you need. But a bass amp trying to handle vocals and guitar is like Gary said, like trying to tighten 2 screws with a hammer.
Hmmm...I wonder what this button does...
#8
Get a powered speaker that has a mic preamp in it
This would be a decent choice for cheap $139
www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/gemini-es-10p-active-10-class-ab-loudspeaker
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Last edited by Robbgnarly at Apr 5, 2015,
#9
Quote by Robbgnarly
Get a powered speaker that has a mic preamp in it
This would be a decent choice for cheap $139
www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/gemini-es-10p-active-10-class-ab-loudspeaker



hell yes ..... I have one from Carvin called a PM12A , all though I don't use it for Vocals , I could , you can plug your mic straight into , has a EQ and volume adjustment

http://carvinaudio.com/collections/pm-series-active-passive-lightweight-molded-speakers/products/pm12a-molded-2-way-12-inch-powered-loudspeaker-monitor
#10
^ that Carvin would be a much better choice if TS can swing the extra money. But if not you cant beat $139 for a powered speaker.

This is also a decent speaker for the $169
www.seismicaudiospeakers.com/powered-10-inch-speaker/p/PWS-10

I have bought several pieces of gear from them and have been very surprised at the quality for the price
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#11
no doubt ..... I wasn't disagreeing with you , just telling what I had .... I actually use mine for playing backing tracks from our band on my computer to practice along with my amp/rig at home , but it can do way more that
#12
Thanks everyone. I think I'm drawn to the guitar/vocal combination because it will be cheaper when I take into account adding vocal reverb/EQ/compressor that might come with a unit like the TC-Helicon Harmony G. Buying a PA speaker may allow me to adjust my EQ but won't have the sweetening tricks included.

Also, I've honestly never really had a problem with the sound I hear coming from my amp. It's a 4x12 cab with the Peavy Deltabass. Clicking on the "Bright" switch and Contour has always helped. I think my guitar sounds godly with the low-end that the Peavey brings, and a Boss MD-2 brings that out even more. I regularly play without a bassist accompaniment (not by choice though) so it's usually just me and my drummer.