#1
Who's a badass drummer and why?

I like Cryptopsy's Flo Mounier, the way he just annihilates that snare drum. I've always been a snare fan, and he does it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unnk37rvJfc

That kinda thing is pretty good. What do you think?

*edit: made the URL work
Last edited by HorrorfaN at Apr 16, 2015,
#3
Love Tool as well! They have put on an absolutely stellar show every time I've seen them.

I think metal, heavy rock, progressive, any of those styles really are defined by percussion. I mean you hear a death metal beat for example, you know it. You can skip the guitars and the voice, listen to the drummer and you know the genre, if it's a good drummer.

Metal and progressive rock seem to be carrying the torch for upper echelon drumming these days, and sure there are great Country drummers, great drummers in Alternative Rock, but if you think "best of the best" you're thinking: Tool, Dream Theater, Cryptopsy, Fleshgod Apocalypse...

You can't just sit in your room with your guitar and decide, "Okay, I'm going to create the most intense music that is humanly possible!" anymore.

You can get pretty far down the road with that if you can program MIDI well, which I can do, but there is no comparison between that level of insanity and the pure evil that can be conjured when you've got a good skin-beater on board.

I used to jam with my brother all the time, and he taught me drums and I taught him guitar, and we're both pretty good, lol. We can switch instruments and you'd think it was Metallica in the room, or maybe a drunk Pantera, lol. Put us on our real instruments, though, my God!!

There is just no touching the heavy music backed by professional-level drumming.
#4
Quote by HorrorfaN
I think metal, heavy rock, progressive, any of those styles really are defined by percussion. I mean you hear a death metal beat for example, you know it. You can skip the guitars and the voice, listen to the drummer and you know the genre, if it's a good drummer.


The problem with modern metal: too much emphasis on rhythms and cool 'beats', but not enough good riffs. Metal is not hip hop.

anyway, cool drums, brah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7WMeSehuI8
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#6
Quote by The Wildchild
The problem with modern metal: too much emphasis on rhythms and cool 'beats', but not enough good riffs. Metal is not hip hop.

anyway, cool drums, brah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7WMeSehuI8


I think this is one of the first times I completely agree with you WC. I'm so tired of people jacking themselves off over widdly woodly guitars written in an odd time signature with polymeters.

With that being said, I love Marco Minnemann especially with The Aristocrats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az9_1Lxy0vA
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#8
Seems there are two schools of thought in metal, well a lot more than two, lol, but these two seem to be at somewhat of odds:

- Good riffs
- Aural assault

That's not necessarily always true, and the better bands do both, but you have your "purists" who are all "melodic metal" or "extreme tech death only."

If you are going for that blast-fest you gotta be damn good because it's pretty much an arms race of who can destroy the set more than the other band. Everything's got its place, you know?

The genre got it's sound from people asking the question, "How can we do this..

faster?
louder?
better?
completely ridiculously, like wtf were they THINKING?!"

Nothing wrong with that.
#9
The best bands played on their own terms. Music as a competition of instrumental technique is best left to non-artists
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#10
Quote by The Wildchild
The best bands played on their own terms. Music as a competition of instrumental technique is best left to non-artists

Agreed. It's nice as an entertaining performance but it's not good music.
#13
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The best bands played on their own terms. Music as a competition of instrumental technique is best left to non-artists


Absolutely true and perhaps the reason why anything tech for the sake of it bores me like hell.
#15
Quote by Morphogenesis26
The kick pedal needs to be taken away from every modern metal drummer for at least a year.


I can make that same sound by pursing my lips together and blowing. Guess that's why I think he blows.
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#16
George Kollias is nuts on kicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnxm1qh_1rw

For all-around effortless craziness, John Longstreth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijrnrm4nXuw

I still like Dave Lombardo for making the drums breathe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ManyDSIC8fQ


The two more interesting guys that blew my mind by doing stuff I thought you weren't allowed to do:

Sean Reinert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FO7CLtlPyY

Dave Haley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THi2Fawf8VI
#18
Quote by BL1NDSIDE-J

Eh I still think Fenriz smokes all of these guys call me old fashion

did you just say Fenriz smokes Buddy fukkin Rich?
#19
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did you just say Fenriz smokes Buddy fukkin Rich?


I knew this was coming, yes I did.
#21
I've read that Fenriz doesn't ever play live. Is that true? If so...then he cannot be counted as a performer at all.
A good artist and performer actually PERFORMS!!!!!

But correct me if I am wrong.
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#22
He certainly used too, I don't think he does much these. I heard some buzz about Darkthrone possible doing something with Burzum but I think it was bullshit who knows though.
Last edited by BL1NDSIDE-J at May 6, 2015,
#24
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That is a giant crock of shit


Agreed I've read Fenriz constantly turns down tour offers, and it's not because he cannot perform that's for sure.
Last edited by BL1NDSIDE-J at May 6, 2015,
#25
i think the key distinction to make is that an artist doesn't have to be a performer. There's plenty of great artists that simply don't do well on stage in front of people, and likewise there's even more great performers who don't have shit to offer when it comes to artistic vision and integrity.
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