#1
So the Bugera is $250 and the Blackstar is $400. Which one is better? From what little I've played, I like the Blackstars. But $150 more is a lot for basically the same specs on both amps. Thanks for any help.
#2
The G5 is a copy of the HT5.
The former will be less reliable, and they will sound the same.

They both will sound pretty bad, I recommend giving us some info about what you want following the directions in this post so we can help you finding a better amp altogether - https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31052894&postcount=2
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#4
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Why would they sound bad?


there's a $150 difference for a reason. cheaper parts etc. the bugera is basically a cheap copy of the blackstar
#5
If those were my only choices, I'd choose...

to go fishing instead.

Both the Bugera and the Blackstar are currently made in China, so unless shown otherwise any real difference is for all practical purposes imaginary. (And Blackstar allegedly claims that the Quality of the Chinese factory is superior to that of it's former Korean factory...)

How about if you let us know what you want to accomplish and as per Spambot's post above we'll try to help you find the best amp to do it?
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#6
Quote by !..!_Rock_!..!
So the Bugera is $250 and the Blackstar is $400. Which one is better? From what little I've played, I like the Blackstars. But $150 more is a lot for basically the same specs on both amps. Thanks for any help.

So a shit-sandwich or a turd-taco? neither IMO. Bugera QC sucks at best, Blackstar are a bunch of lying assholes, so which would you prefer
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#7
I want an amp loud enough to gig at a small venue. 2 channels. A crunchy overdrive. Less than $450. I live near Nashville.
#8
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I want an amp loud enough to gig at a small venue.
Unless the venue is reeeally small (say no more than 30 people all in front of the stage) the problem with gigging unmic'd will be related to sound dispersion, not volume.

Volume will be enough in most cases, but guitar speakers basically project different portions of the sound (frequency bands) in different directions, and some parts of the sound will be attenuated by travel through air before others, so unless the audience can be all contained in a relatively small space, different parts of the audience will hear different things, with most of them not hearing much good stuff.

So if you're serious about gigging and you wanna achieve a more than mediocre sound result, get a PA system as well.

Crunchy overdrive is pretty generic - may mean an AC30 or a JCM800 or a transatlantic.
Would you give us some bands/songs as reference for the tone you wanna achieve?
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#10
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I want an amp loud enough to gig at a small venue. 2 channels. A crunchy overdrive. Less than $450. I live near Nashville.

Find a used Krank 1980 Jr or Rev Jr pro

These are 20 or 50 watt lunch box heads that have 2 foot switchable channels. I have the 1980 Jr 20 watt and it will work in a band situation easy and it sounds great. I paid $300 used for mine 1.5 yrs ago from www.guitarcenter.com/usedgear


You also might want to look at the Peavey VK mini head
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Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
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Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#11
I am not familiar with the Bugera, but if you are looking for Blackstar advice, you're on the wrong forum; as all your going to get on this forum is blackstar's suck.

As to your question, I am not a big fan of the HT-5, they are fine but not real flexible in my opinion. Depending on the type of music you play, like others have mentioned above, a used Marshall DSL 40C would be better. I would recommend a used Blackstar HT-20.

Hope this helps.
#12
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They both will sound pretty bad, I recommend giving us some info about what you want following the directions in this post so we can help you finding a better amp altogether - https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31052894&postcount=2



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Depending on the type of crunch you are looking for and the type of music you play I'd be more inclined to buy something like this:


http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4954155423.html Crate 5212
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4995053818.html Vox AD50VT
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4995710124.html Peavey 6505+
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4986360712.html Line 6 Flextone
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4983393749.html Fender Silverface Champ
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4991446136.html Crate Blue Voodoo head
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4988711088.html Crate Vintage Club 50
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4953322646.html VHT Classic 18
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4981579695.html Peavey Vypyr VIP3 100
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4951584910.html Fender Blues Deluxe
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4972079001.html Peavey Vypyr Tube 60
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4932498002.html Peavey Classic 30
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4962551857.html Kustom Coupe 36
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4957301493.html Gibson GA-40
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4964697436.html Fender Blues Jr
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4951965153.html Vox AC15
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4947133403.html Peavey Classic 100
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4992638511.html Vox Night Train
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4981322528.html Egnater Tweaker
http://nashville.craigslist.org/msg/4980341606.html Peavey Ultra

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Orange-Amplifiers-Used-Orange-Amplifiers-TT15H-Tiny-Terror-15W-Tube-Guitar-Amp-Head-111050550-i4266214.gc Orange Tiny Terror


Damn, I need to make a trip to Nashville


^ It is not so much that Blackstar amps suck per say (IMO) it is the fact that I don't trust the owners, therefore I personally choose not to do business with them nor recommend them.
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#13
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if you are looking for Blackstar advice, you're on the wrong forum; as all your going to get on this forum is blackstar's suck.
As a company, definitely.

We do recognize some of their higher end amps sound good, say the series one stuff, but people here ask about the HT1 and HT5 all the time, and them I wouldn't recommend even if they came from the most reputable company in the world.

Why?
Because I heard them in person.
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#14
I want Guns n Roses Knocking on Heaven's Door type crunch. Or if it's a metal amp, I want Slayer's 2000's era crunch.
#15
I'd say either the Peavey Ultra, Peavey Vypyr tube 60 or the Crate Blue voodoo
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Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#16
A used Marshall DSL 40c would be good for G&R, and if you add an MXR 12 band EQ, you will get more of a slayer tone. But then you are getting up in cost. The Peaveys would be decent, I am not a fan, but they are not bad.
#17
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A used Marshall DSL 40c would be good for G&R, and if you add an MXR 12 band EQ, you will get more of a slayer tone. But then you are getting up in cost. The Peaveys would be decent, I am not a fan, but they are not bad.

Way better than a DSL40c
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#18
Regardless of cost, I'd take an Epi Valve Jr over either of those. You'll want something bigger if you're gigging though.
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#20
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#21
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Regardless of cost, I'd take an Epi Valve Jr over either of those. You'll want something bigger if you're gigging though.
I used a blackheart BH5 for gigging and I'm taking it for a gig later this evening, and I respectfully disagree with both the fact that you need something bigger for gigging and the fact that it would be good for these tones.

For gigging you need a PA system anyway if ya ask me, and even if you don't use one the thing can get pretty damn loud if you don't care about pristine cleans or full low end.

The valve jr is able to get into the crunch territory if you turn the volume up a looot, which more often than not isn't an option, but even if it was it's not even close to a modern day marshall (well let's say a JCM or a DSL), let alone a blackstar HT.

It does sound good for sure, but you'd need a good pedal or two to achieve these tones.

And if one wants low end at considerable volumes also, 5w aren't enough if you have anything less than a good 4x12 cab, better if two.
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#22
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Regardless of cost, I'd take an Epi Valve Jr over either of those. You'll want something bigger if you're gigging though.

Those amps suck too
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Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#23
^ I disagree with that as well :p

It has a hell of a good clean tone and it costs close to nothing.
It's also pretty easy to mod.

I mean, it's obviously a matter of preference, but the consensus I find is that it's the opposite of versatile but it sounds quite good, especially considering how much it can be had for.
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