#1
This amp has been one of my dream amps and I've seen some few used ones on craigslist. I'm in contact with a seller atm, priced at $625 CAD. So, for my questions, how much does this amp go for nowadays? I've done some research and read some got theirs for $300-400? But that was about 2-3 years ago. The seller owned this amp since 2003, never gigged with, only used a few times and just been stored ever since. Here's some pics:







What are your thoughts on the price? I'm gonna try this one in a few days and see how it goes. Some additional questions, Will this amp be too loud in an apartment? I know it's made to be played loud but how does is fair at low volume? In the ad, he specify that he just changed the tubes, How do you check it if it's a new tube? Any additional info would be greatly appreciated! Please tell me your opinions, Cheers! I really want this amp.
#2
They run $500 in the USA all the time these days, so that seems about right. Maybe see if he'll go to $600

Apt use will be sketchy, but if you get it grab a tube screamer or clone to boost the front at lower volumes.

You really can not check how new the tubes are unless you have a tube tester.
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#3
kinda doubt anyone got one for $300 unless it was a crackhead buy or had something wrong with it. see if the guy will come down some. of course check it out first to make sure everything works properly and sounds good.
#4
With the CAD like it is, I'd say 550-600 is a good deal. Some people try selling them for a lot more than that, so I would just try and haggle him a little.
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#5
Unless you're set on getting a 5150 for aesthetic reasons, if I were going to pay $500+ for the 212 combo, I'd probably go for the 6505 version, simply because it was made more recently. They are identical internally, so you'd be getting the same amp with a slightly different look.

For some reason, I see 6505 212s listed at the same price range as the older 5150s, and sometimes cheaper than the older versions. People think the older ones are "better" perhaps -- but they're identical. It makes sense to me to buy the newer version, just because it's, well, newer.
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#6
What's your definition of too loud? My old 6505 212 didn't start to sound 'right' until the volume was getting close to 1/10. And that's decently loud. With an EQ and boost, maybe you can get it to work for you. I'd go check it out and see what it sounds like at the volumes you can use.
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#7
I have this same amp and for apartment volumes you really need a tubescreamer and an EQ. If this will be strictly for apartment I don't know if it's the best choice.
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#8
Pretty much NO amp is going to sound great at apartment volumes.

Even the 5-watt Epi Valve Junior, which isn't really something that can outrun a drummer, will outrun your lease.

Headphones are the ticket; you can run them to tinnitus levels with mind-numbing bass AND treble response and the guy YOU can near snoring through the walls will continue to sleep like a baby.

My advice is to get the amp because it's what you've always wanted, but leave enough financial room to pick up a good set of over-the-ear headphones and an old used Pod or something so that you can punish your brain right into droolage and still have a place with electricity to live in.
#9
I got mine for $400 two years ago and sold it for the same. The amp comes alive at volume 2, 1 is just muffed to me even with a tubescreamer. Definitely not an apartmemt amp.
#10
Quote by KailM
Unless you're set on getting a 5150 for aesthetic reasons, if I were going to pay $500+ for the 212 combo, I'd probably go for the 6505 version, simply because it was made more recently. They are identical internally, so you'd be getting the same amp with a slightly different look.

For some reason, I see 6505 212s listed at the same price range as the older 5150s, and sometimes cheaper than the older versions. People think the older ones are "better" perhaps -- but they're identical. It makes sense to me to buy the newer version, just because it's, well, newer.

But 5150 is a cooler number than 6505


a lot cooler
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#11
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But 5150 is a cooler number than 6505


a lot cooler

As a 6505 owner, I'm afraid I have to agree.


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#12
I would personally rather have a Peavey Vypyr Tube 60. It has a power section lifted off of the 6505 and a headphone out jack. What's not to love? Sounds great at apartment volumes and downright phenomenal at loud volumes.
#13
my old 6505 head wasn't the best at low volumes. it got quiet, but it didn't sound as good as other amps i have had at low volumes. it is doable though. you would definitely want an OD with it though. and probably a noise gate.
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#14
Touch sensitive volume knob that goes from muffled to ZOMFG THAT WAS LOUD with a slightest touch. EQ with volume knob is often recommended to get more headroom and make finding the sweetspot easier. For apartment with thin walls any amp is too loud really but it can be done. I used Valveking 100w head succesfully in apartment without annoying neighbours. I didnt have an EQ pedal either so i had to be surgically precise with the volume knob.

Probably a waste of good amp but i didnt care, it was my first tube head and i loved it.

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Touch sensitive volume knob that goes from muffled to ZOMFG THAT WAS LOUD with a slightest touch. EQ with volume knob is often recommended to get more headroom and make finding the sweetspot easier. For apartment with thin walls any amp is too loud really but it can be done. I used Valveking 100w head succesfully in apartment without annoying neighbours. I didnt have an EQ pedal either so i had to be surgically precise with the volume knob.

Probably a waste of good amp but i didnt care, it was my first tube head and i loved it.


that is the worst thing i remember about mine. i have a house though, so it isn't a big deal.

also you can't say its the waste of a good amp. if you like it and use it thats good enough.
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that is the worst thing i remember about mine. i have a house though, so it isn't a big deal.

also you can't say its the waste of a good amp. if you like it and use it thats good enough.



Thats the point. The 5150 might be too much of an amp for his current living situation but he will probably love it anyway just like I loved my Valveking.

Also since 5150 is his dream amp there is only one way to cure it.

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