#1
Does the now legendary Marshall 100 Watt head pack enough gain to handle 80s rock? Think Guns N' Roses, Scorpions, Whitesnake, that kind of stuff.

Volume is not going to be an issue, I plan to use an attenuator between the amp and the cab.

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#3
Marshall's Super Lead Plexi was never a high-gain amp. To get it to distort at all, you have to play it at deafening volume levels. As others have said, you will need a pedal to get your high-gain stuff. Fortunately, the Marshall SLP is a great amplifier, and it takes pedals very well. Get yourself a Wampler Triple Wreck or SLOstortion pedal to go with it and you are set.
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#4
Just get an 800 if you're worried about more gain on tap. It'll do the 80s and still sounds decent for classic rock when you crank it up.


Really though, how about a budget? There's other options out there besides Plexis and Marshalls in general that can probably get you what you want.
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+1. its everything that a Marshall should have been but failed to be.

Three gears for different gain levels, footswitchable OD1/OD2, footswitchable second master volume for a volume boost dialed in by knob, etc. you can find them cheap too.
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#7
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Just get an 800 if you're worried about more gain on tap. It'll do the 80s and still sounds decent for classic rock when you crank it up.


Really though, how about a budget? There's other options out there besides Plexis and Marshalls in general that can probably get you what you want.


I have heard it in clips, and basically sounds like a knife going through your ear with all that treble
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#8
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I have heard it in clips, and basically sounds like a knife going through your ear with all that treble


no. that is how some idiot EQ'd it. they sound good when ran properly.

seriously look into a splawn quick rod.
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#9
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I have heard it in clips, and basically sounds like a knife going through your ear with all that treble


You wont like a plexi then, theyre pretty trebly amps too.
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#10
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I have heard it in clips, and basically sounds like a knife going through your ear with all that treble


and yet these were the amps used by the bands you mentioned. keep in mind that an amp played by itself won't sound the same as in a band mix. the JCM 800 was the sound of 80s metal.
#11
I may have to take that back about the JCM800 being overly trebly, did some YouTube research and it sounds really good and balanced. I was probably watching videos with the amp EQd terrible, as trashedlostfdup said.
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#14
Plexi is a great amp. Surprisingly, it actually sounded very close to the Carl Martin Plexitone when put in the cross configuration, bottom left feeds top right, I think (jumpered config).

It will pull AC/DC, maybe Scorps but it will be at deafening volumes. Takes really good with pedals up front though, so you can pick up a HT-Dual or Sansamp Original and get quite a few good tones out of it. You could also try it with the Yngwie overdrive (DOD 250, I think) - that's the original Yngwie tone.

Great amp when eqed and set up properly. The best Marshall cleans. If I can, I'd own one.

Even though this is the Plexitone, it sounds pretty close to what I got out of a Plexi in studio conditions under some really loud settings in an iso booth:
http://www.houstonmusicreviews.com/GearReview/DistShootout/Samples/carl%20martin%20plexitone.mp3
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#16
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I have heard it in clips, and basically sounds like a knife going through your ear with all that treble

So you basically have no clue as to what you want
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Plexi is a great amp. Surprisingly, it actually sounded very close to the Carl Martin Plexitone when put in the cross configuration, bottom left feeds top right, I think (jumpered config).

It will pull AC/DC, maybe Scorps but it will be at deafening volumes. Takes really good with pedals up front though, so you can pick up a HT-Dual or Sansamp Original and get quite a few good tones out of it. You could also try it with the Yngwie overdrive (DOD 250, I think) - that's the original Yngwie tone.

Great amp when eqed and set up properly. The best Marshall cleans. If I can, I'd own one.

Even though this is the Plexitone, it sounds pretty close to what I got out of a Plexi in studio conditions under some really loud settings in an iso booth:
http://www.houstonmusicreviews.com/GearReview/DistShootout/Samples/carl%20martin%20plexitone.mp3

Yep, put a shit pedal through a good amp
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#18
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Plexi is a great amp. Surprisingly, it actually sounded very close to the Carl Martin Plexitone when put in the cross configuration, bottom left feeds top right, I think (jumpered config).

It will pull AC/DC, maybe Scorps but it will be at deafening volumes. Takes really good with pedals up front though, so you can pick up a HT-Dual or Sansamp Original and get quite a few good tones out of it. You could also try it with the Yngwie overdrive (DOD 250, I think) - that's the original Yngwie tone.

Great amp when eqed and set up properly. The best Marshall cleans. If I can, I'd own one.

Even though this is the Plexitone, it sounds pretty close to what I got out of a Plexi in studio conditions under some really loud settings in an iso booth:
http://www.houstonmusicreviews.com/GearReview/DistShootout/Samples/carl%20martin%20plexitone.mp3


good playing but sir that does not sound good.
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#20
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Which one is the sh*t pedal?

The HT dual
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#22
For the same price as the HT-Dual new I'd rather this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eiiN26BY3M


Maybe not quite as many higher gain tones but still very versatile (and sound fucking amazing)
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Splawn.
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#27
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Is that Atomic Steve Stevens in a box? Sure sounds li





Tbf with the gain dialed back you can get some decent Kossoff tones.
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#28
Yeah man. If volume is no issue and you have an attenuater then it will be pretty good for that kind of stuff. Buy an OD pedal was well. Randy Rhoads used one cranked and his sound was every bit as heavy as GNR so it should do you well.
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#29
Randy used a distortion pedal into his Marshall for his metal tone iirc.
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#30
Plexis are only useful for novelty/historical value. Non MV amps are just poor design, whichever way you look at it.

Get a JCM800, turn the volume all the way up and use the gain as your volume. Magic, you now have a Plexi. For all intents and purposes anyway. If you can find a MV 2203 that's even closer.

Better yet, get a JCM2000 DSL100. It's a Plexi, JCM800, and a clean channel all in one. Depending on how you run it.

And if you don't mind not having a Marshall, there are amps that do Marshall "better", these guys will tell you all about them.
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#31
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Plexis are only useful for novelty/historical value. Non MV amps are just poor design, whichever way you look at it.

Get a JCM800, turn the volume all the way up and use the gain as your volume. Magic, you now have a Plexi. For all intents and purposes anyway. If you can find a MV 2203 that's even closer.

Better yet, get a JCM2000 DSL100. It's a Plexi, JCM800, and a clean channel all in one. Depending on how you run it.

And if you don't mind not having a Marshall, there are amps that do Marshall "better", these guys will tell you all about them.

+311 on the JCM 2000 DSL100.

Splawns and Soldanos are probably non-starters since he's in Greece.
#32
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Splawns and Soldanos are probably non-starters since he's in Greece.


Nah, he just needs to get Merkel to pay for them

I am all for the Plexi, its a nice vibey amp and it feels like you finally got a chance to sleep with that Scandinavian model you've been chasing for 5 years and it turns out she's no fun in the sack...but your friends still envy you.