#1
like the title says. I need ideas for an amp. I've had 2 tubers die on me now, and frankly I'm kind of sick of them. I have a 1969 univox model 1221 I'm hoping I can trade for a super decent SS amp. and before you all start screaming "JC120" I want you to know that yes. I know that JC120s exist. they're great. I want one. a little out of my budget. now, for the stuff you actually care about:

budget: univox amp + cab ($200-$400 trade value)
desired config: 2x12 high wattage
genres of choice: indie. jazz. just cleans. clean clean clean. clean. jazz cleans. post rock cleans. pop cleans. clean.
amps I'm considering: JC120, Fender M80.

why no tubes? they're unreliable, I'm too poor to keep fixing them all. I'm just hoping to get rid of this one before it breaks on me too. they tend to be less clean. I don't want an SS that "sounds like" a tuber. it should sound good in it's own respect.

stay away from: line 6, crate, anything digital, non 2x12s, stacks (heads are ok), unattainable vintage rarities. thanks for your time.
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#3
Good luck with that. You should always get what you want but your reasons are silly.

And both Crate and L6 make some decent SS amps, so not sure what your bias there is.
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#4
Quote by Will Lane
You might like the Roland Blues Cube.


+1 they aren't bad. i don't know if it is best for "just cleans. clean clean clean. clean. jazz cleans. post rock cleans. pop cleans. clean."

ampeg? i don't remember which models though. for what its worth i have a 70 watt ampeg that has really sweet cleans and sounds great, but it does a have a preamp tube. i am not sure if one tube is a deal breaker. loud as hell and clean as a bell.

i don't think there are a lot of options, especially that you don't want it to emulate tube amps. that is what 90% of SS amps are in production (number is random guess).

good luck.
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Good luck with that. You should always get what you want but your reasons are silly.

And both Crate and L6 make some decent SS amps, so not sure what your bias there is.


IIRC some ampeg's have the same circuitry as crates too. (vh140c comes to mind, can't remember name though).
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#6
Quote by trashedlostfdup
IIRC some ampeg's have the same circuitry as crates too. (vh140c comes to mind, can't remember name though).


Yep, the Crate GX130 is similar, and the GT3500 is a monster version of it.

OP should of course look at any of the several Peaveys as well.
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#7
Quote by Arby911
Yep, the Crate GX130 is similar, and the GT3500 is a monster version of it.

OP should of course look at any of the several Peaveys as well.


i had a transtube supreme (i just mentioned it in another thread lol) in IIRC 2002, and it was a pretty nice SS amp.

BUT... OP doesn't want it to emulate the tone of a tube amp.

JC120 i think it is it for the OP.
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#8
The old Yamaha G100-212's are pretty good. I gigged with one for many years.
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#9
first and foremost I'd like to apologize for the tone of my post. I wasn't exactly in the best state of mind.

the blues cube sounds good and I've heard a lot of great things about them, but how loud are they?


I've had more than one crate amp die on me, so that's my bias there. L6 has always sounded like toys to me. I basically don't have the money to be working my amps as hard as I am for about 3 months and then having to replace them. I'm a decent penny in debt from college so I will probably own another tube amp afterwards (or maybe even during, I'm very fickle), but right now I'm looking at solid state. I've always been a fan of Peavey stuff, except the last one I had sounded way dark and inarticulate. there were no subtleties in my playing at all.

believe it or not, I played a 90s B100 II at my last gig though a 4x10 cabinet with 2 ripped speakers and I got compliments on my tone from other guitarists. so I probably will look at that yamaha. thanks again everyone.
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#10
The Peavey Bandit I would recommend as I have one. It's reliable and sounds good.
Also the Peavey Special Chorus 212 if you can find one. Seems like they only made it for one year a few years back.
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#11
An old Fender Princeton Chorus? I had a lot of luck with one of those.


Have you considered it may be you and not the amps (no offense), like are you transporting them via road bike over a mountain trail or something less exaggerated but equally damning? If the same happens with a ss, it may not be as practical to fix. Isn't the Univox an almost 50 year old, budget amp? Were the previous amps the same?
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#12
my first amp that died was a crate v50, power supply failure, not possibly my fault. never gigged. hate crate. second amp was a Peavey Classic 50, I had a road case for it, took it on many gigs. reversed the IC by accident trying to fix reverb, killed the preamp. no tech wants to fix it. that's my bad. never had a Solid State give me a problem though
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#13
So you've actually only had one amp fail you? And a cheap solid state amp is the solution? To each his own I guess.

Have you tried the Acoustic brand amps? I'm not sure bout cleans, I tried it with mid gain, but I was somewhat impressed with 'em and they're dirt cheap. I'd bet the old Fender Princeton Chorus would work really well for you. They're no longer made but I see 'em around all the time. I'm not familiar with the Frontman but it seems the Princeton Chorus was much more highly regarded.
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#14
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So you've actually only had one amp fail you? And a cheap solid state amp is the solution? To each his own I guess.

Have you tried the Acoustic brand amps? I'm not sure bout cleans, I tried it with mid gain, but I was somewhat impressed with 'em and they're dirt cheap. I'd bet the old Fender Princeton Chorus would work really well for you. They're no longer made but I see 'em around all the time. I'm not familiar with the Frontman but it seems the Princeton Chorus was much more highly regarded.


that is a little extreme IMO. OP had one fail , then fried another. i wouldn't consider that a damnation to tube amps.
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#15
Any of the Roland JC amps would be a great choice. While they're rare, you might be able to come across a JC-120H and keep the cab! You can find JC-120's for under $500 used. They're really heavy, hence why I would opt for the cab or maybe a smaller one like the JC-77.
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#16
You're maybe 15 years too late as they all slap on digital effects on their new amps and real honest ss amp is getting harder to find.
I have Fender Princeton 112 that is 15 year old and is great. There's also Princeton chorus off the same batch. Loud 60 waters which are quite reliable.
Tech21 have a 60 water that is still what I'd consider clean solid state TM60:
http://tech21nyc.com/products/amps/guitar/trademark60.html

I think maybe Carvin still make something new or Taurus amps out of Poland:
http://www.taurus-amp.pl/guitar.html
#17
Fender Frontman 212.
The Princeton Chorus is cooler but less powerful and it has 2x10s.
I would unquestionably buy the princeton chorus if it was for me.
The Peavey Chorus looks cool. No experience with it.
#19
Check this:
http://carvinamplifiers.com/collections/sx-series/products/sx300-3-channel-100-watt-combo-amp-with-tube-emulation-and-digital-effects

The old ones were great but you can disable the digital fx on these if they're garbage.
#20
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The old Yamaha G100-212's are pretty good. I gigged with one for many years.


^This. These were surprisingly good in both of their incarnations. Beyond that, you might take a look at Carvin's SX-300:

http://www.carvinamplifiers.com/products/sx300-3-channel-100-watt-combo-amp-with-tube-emulation-and-digital-effects

I tried one a few years ago and thought it was noisy, but they may be much improved by now.
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#21
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