#1
Well, this is what happens.

http://newsexaminer.net/food/mcdonalds-to-open-restaurant-run-by-robots/


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This reads like a poorly written parody article (more sources needed), but if it's not then I'm actually surprised. I did not expect the $15 wage lashback to hit so soon.

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This reads like a poorly written parody article



Seriously.
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#6
I can't recall anyone ever making an error at mcdonalds and sometimes they give me extra food but robots won't give me extra food
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This reads like a poorly written parody article (more sources needed), but if it's not then I'm actually surprised. I did not expect the $15 wage lashback to hit so soon.

I got little confused while reading the article tho.
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#8
Employees will get paid more when they have to have degrees in engineering to work at McDs
#10
1. Dont go in self-checkout lines at grocery stores
2. Dont buy McDonalds


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This reads like a poorly written parody article.

I've never agreed with Xiaoxi more.
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#12
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this is a step in the right direction ideally man shoudl not have to work except scientists and robot enginieers TBH
My thoughts worded in the first comment. <3

It wouldn't change much, even if it is successful, but it would be the first (national) company to take that step, so it would be a start.
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#13
The recession ended years ago and I don't see any other articles about this so I'm assuming fake and gay.

But if it was true that'd be cool, I'd go to that McDonald's.
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Also, this website seems shady. It's (1) a .net, (2) a movie review is titled "‘Mad Max: Fury Road’ Is Beyond Good", and (3) this was published on the website). It's not even been a minute and I can't take this website seriously.

Anyway, I, for one, don't welcome our robot overlords. Even if the pay is shit, it's still putting people out of work (cue a conservative adding that this is an opportunity for them to "better their lives" or some shit).

I'm a fast food worker and even I'd rather have robots take my money, I take my own order, and the machines make my food. I don't care for customer service, and this would mean people aren't taking shortcuts,messing up my food order, or using food that should've been in the waste bin because it's past time that it's meant to be held for serving. But my experience suggests part of the reason people are regular customers is because of the customer service, so I don't see this job becoming automated as a regular thing any time soon.
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#17
Lets pretend this is serious I doubt franchise owners, especially new ones, would be excited to pay for their shiny fast food robots instead of just hiring minimum wage joe

And I doubt mcdonald's would be supplying everybody with them free of charge so I doubt you'd hardly ever see them anywhere
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Lets pretend this is serious I doubt franchise owners, especially new ones, would be excited to pay for their shiny fast food robots instead of just hiring minimum wage joe

And I doubt mcdonald's would be supplying everybody with them free of charge so I doubt you'd hardly ever see them anywhere

Employees make mistakes, waste food, ask to be paid by the hour, ask for benefits, steal food, and days off.

To put it into perspective, think about the drive-thru speed of service times. It's estimated at my store that each second is worth $10,000 a year. If robots really are faster, then I'd imagine it'd bring loads of extra profit, granted people don't stop going to fast food restaurants because of the lack of humans working there.

My opinion is practically worthless, though. This is based solely on my experience selling burgers and chicken and I pretty much hate anything to do with finance or business.

There's a human element to the job other than customer service and sometimes. I don't know if robots would be better at it. It's estimating how much product to make (fries, nuggets, meat patties, chicken, salads, the like). Our systems make predictions based on the past week sales and the same week the year before, and so on. It's not always right, and it might slow down the process. Additionally, people are prone to making mistakes, and it may be better/faster for experienced people such as I (seriously, how am I?) to take orders and working the machine rather than people doing it for themselves.
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I didn't even read that paragraph but it sounded like you were trying to make it seem like it was plausible but robots are really really really expensive and paying people that know how to program and maintain those robots is a lot more expensive than a minimum wage work

Just the more skilled workers would probably eat any increase in revenue they would see
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#21
I skimmed the article and saw the word 'McRobots'. I've decided that I don't actually want to read the article anymore
#22
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Yep, because McDonalds really needs a higher profit margin


they will have the higher profit in the near term but as their competitors follow suit and redress the organic composition of capital themselves the entire industry will suffer from a decline in profit

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Hey, I live in AZ. I'll go there and tell you all how it is.
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Employees make mistakes, waste food, ask to be paid by the hour, ask for benefits, steal food, and days off.

You have no idea the buckets and buckets of food we threw away at mcdonalds, just because it sat out for 10 minutes. Robots can't predict what people will order 5 minutes in the future, wasting hundreds of pounds of food is a part of fast food.

That said as a former mcdonalds employee, I've never had an easier job, and there probably isn't many jobs easier than working at mcdonalds.

I made 7.25 usd an hour there...
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#26
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You have no idea the buckets and buckets of food we threw away at mcdonalds, just because it sat out for 10 minutes. Robots can't predict what people will order 5 minutes in the future, wasting hundreds of pounds of food is a part of fast food.

That said as a former mcdonalds employee, I've never had an easier job, and there probably isn't many jobs easier than working at mcdonalds.

I made 7.25 usd an hour there...
During the brief time I was laid off, I worked at a place that did hand bindery. Without a doubt in my mind was it it the easiest job ever.

The roles would change from time to time, but I literally sat down and took books (SAT Prep Tests, to be specific) coming off a machine and hand them to someone else for 8 hours.

Other roles included stuffing envelopes, folding papers, and inserting papers into folders. And it payed exactly the same. $7.25 an hour. I think it would be a good job for people who retired but want to keep working, though almost everyone was my age or just a bit older.

Security guard is pretty easy too, I imagine.
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I didn't even read that paragraph but it sounded like you were trying to make it seem like it was plausible but robots are really really really expensive and paying people that know how to program and maintain those robots is a lot more expensive than a minimum wage work

Just the more skilled workers would probably eat any increase in revenue they would see

You could be right, but I would guess that it may pay off in the long run.

Just one general manager makes about $80k where I work. In a store full of machines, you probably wouldn't need a general manager. Assistant managers and positions above that aren't general manager starts at about $40k. So let's say the median income for these managers is $50k. My store has three managers who aren't the general manager. That's $230k you've saved (note: This doesn't take bonuses into account).

I make $15k, and I think we have 40+ employees. That's another $300k a year paying 40 employees $15k.

So that's (very) roughly $530k/yr. spent paying employees alone. In five years, that's more than $2.5 million.

Ideally, the robots would cut down on food costs because there are much fewer mistakes being made. They're also much faster, so the drive-thru alone should reap loads of profit. If they're 10 seconds on average faster than a human-operated drive-thru- remember I said each second is worth $10,000/year, that's $500,000 more profit made in five years.

So now we've got an extra $3 million in five years because we've fired all of our employees, not counting raises and benefits, and not accounting for food costs from waste made by human error (which are massive, but I don't remember those figures offhand. They've never had me do the paperwork for waste. I can ask, though). That's about what my store makes each year. Now these are very, very rough estimates based on a paradigm where the store operates entirely by machinery and that customers don't stop coming to my Wendy's, so this exercise could have been entirely useless. I've got no idea how much it takes to run a store that operates by machines. But I doubt it's as far from realistic you think it is. We make about $3 million/yr. collectively as a store (granted, we are one of the most profitable ones in our company of 15+ Wendy's), so that's a 20% increase in profit based on this very rough estimate.
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You have no idea the buckets and buckets of food we threw away at mcdonalds, just because it sat out for 10 minutes. Robots can't predict what people will order 5 minutes in the future, wasting hundreds of pounds of food is a part of fast food.

That said as a former mcdonalds employee, I've never had an easier job, and there probably isn't many jobs easier than working at mcdonalds.

I made 7.25 usd an hour there...

I think I have an idea, unless Wendy's is drastically different with its waste procedures.

I'm pretty sure I addressed the prediction issue, anyway, and that humans might actually be better at it. Did your store not have a system that predicted how much product would likely be used?
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You could be right, but I would guess that it may pay off in the long run.

Just one general manager makes about $80k where I work. In a store full of machines, you probably wouldn't need a general manager. Assistant managers and positions above that aren't general manager starts at about $40k. So let's say the median income for these managers is $50k. My store has three managers who aren't the general manager. That's $230k you've saved (note: This doesn't take bonuses into account).

I make $15k, and I think we have 40+ employees. That's another $300k a year paying 40 employees $15k.

So that's (very) roughly $530k/yr. spent paying employees alone. In five years, that's more than $2.5 million.

Ideally, the robots would cut down on food costs because there are much fewer mistakes being made. They're also much faster, so the drive-thru alone should reap loads of profit. If they're 10 seconds on average faster than a human-operated drive-thru- remember I said each second is worth $10,000/year, that's $500,000 more profit made in five years.

So now we've got an extra $3 million in five years because we've fired all of our employees, not counting raises and benefits, and not accounting for food costs from waste made by human error (which are massive, but I don't remember those figures offhand. They've never had me do the paperwork for waste. I can ask, though). That's about what my store makes each year. Now these are very, very rough estimates based on a paradigm where the store operates entirely by machinery and that customers don't stop coming to my Wendy's, so this exercise could have been entirely useless. I've got no idea how much it takes to run a store that operates by machines. But I doubt it's as far from realistic you think it is. We make about $3 million/yr. collectively as a store (granted, we are one of the most profitable ones in our company of 15+ Wendy's), so that's a 20% increase in profit based on this very rough estimate.

I think I have an idea, unless Wendy's is drastically different with its waste procedures.

I'm pretty sure I addressed the prediction issue, anyway, and that humans might actually be better at it. Did your store not have a system that predicted how much product would likely be used?

We didn't, then again it was nearly a decade ago. If there was a system that predicted it I was never told about it.
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#37
Having a minimum wage that you have to supplement with welfare to survive is stupid. Why shouldn't McDonald's workers earn more? It is not skilled work but it's still hard work.
#38
Jesus Christ you guys the entire article is nothing but Office Space quotes. They even use the names of Office Space characters!

Recalibrate your satire detectors already.