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#1
I'm seeing more about people in the US and similar countries communicating with or trying to go join ISIS. What the heck is their problem?
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#3
Stupid people being stupid. It's stupider still when you hear stories of them wanting to come home after realising that being part of a terrorist group isn't much fun after all.
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#4
Just doing it for the banter innit

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#6
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#7
because they're angsty or arrogant or just a moral moron, that's why.
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#8
They seem to agree with their cause. Leaving behind your home and easy life to fight for a cause you truly believe in is nothing new and shrugging it off as just a few people thinking they're gonna 'have fun' fighting for rebel groups in the Middle East like some of you twats seem to be doing is beyond idiotic.

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Many non-Spaniards, often affiliated with radical communist or socialist entities, joined the International Brigades, believing that the Spanish Republic was a front line in the war against fascism. The units represented the largest foreign contingent of those fighting for the Republicans. Roughly 40,000 foreign nationals fought with the Brigades, though no more than 18,000 were entered into the conflict at any given time. They claimed to represent 53 nations.[118]

Significant numbers of volunteers originated in France (10,000), Germany and Austria (5,000), and Italy (3,350). More than 1,000 each came from the Soviet Union, the United States, the United Kingdom, Poland, Yugoslavia, Hungary, and Canada.

Why they seem to be willing to do so for the ideals of the Islamic State is more of a mystery. I'm guessing religious fundamentalism plays its own role in all of this but from what I know the IS is also known for very effective propaganda. They probably know how to present their cause as more righteous and just than we se it.



Either way, painting these people as braindead manchildren who just decided to leave their life behind on a whim isn't much, if at all smarter than what they're doing.

at burg for the somalian pirates song tho


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
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#9
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Either way, painting these people as braindead manchildren who just decided to live their life behind on a whim isn't much, if at all smarter than what they're doing.

Why pussyfoot about how "smart" one looks in conversation when you're talking about folks who perform hideous executions in public? ISIS is what happens when neglected children grow up with an external world flaunting its unattainable luxuries for them to constantly see (thanks to media) for years and years and years. Combine that with insidious US involvement in their region of the Earth, and well... where's the mystery? This is how abuse and neglect manifests itself in adulthood: mythic mass psychosis.
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#10
Because presenting them as thoughtless isn't some brave way of criticising their beliefs, it's an idiot's and coward's way of dehumanizing the volunteers so that he doesn't have to think about whats so fvcking wrong with the world that people are prepared to travel thousands of miles to chop off kids' heads in the name of Allah.

It's not informed opposition, it's voluntary covering of one's own eyes.


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
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#11
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Because presenting them as thoughtless isn't some brave way of criticising their beliefs, it's an idiot's and coward's way of dehumanizing the volunteers so that he doesn't have to think about whats so fvcking wrong with the world that people are prepared to travel thousands of miles to chop off kids' heads in the name of Allah.

Who's trying to look brave?


There's no possible way to sugarcoat a beheading, so any attempt to do so - for the purposes of appearing "reasonable" and "understanding" - is just a game of the ego.
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#12
Are you even reading my posts?


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#13
Yes, I am. Are we gonna do this little dance as well?
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#14
Okay so how did you figure that I'm trying to sugarcoat beheadings or that I'm even talking about IS itself and not the Westerners who want to join it?


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#15
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Okay so how did you figure that I'm trying to sugarcoat beheadings or that I'm even talking about IS itself and not the Westerners who want to join it?

Westerners fit my earlier description like a charm: they get a front-row seat at the insidious behavior of the US/The West.
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#16
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Westerners fit my earlier description like a charm: they get a front-row seat at the insidious behavior of the US/The West.

And this disagrees with my points how?


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#17
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And this disagrees with my points how?

We're having a disagreement? I'm just lampooning a sentence that suggests that others should not throw insults at psychotic killers.
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#18
Are you telling me we had to go through all of this just because you couldn't drop your Zappa impersonation for long enough to simply express your right to call terrorists idiots?

I could've been eating lunch by now m8.


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#19
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Are you telling me we had to go through all of this just because you couldn't drop your Zappa impersonation for long enough to simply express your right to call terrorists idiots?

I could've been eating lunch by now m8.

The **** does Zappa have anything to do with this? Grasping at staws, man...
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#20
I watching Duckman which has Zappa's son Dweezil as a voice and Zappa did the themesong. Pretty much the only Zappa I like (except maybe that time Moon Unit and George Clinton got their asses handed to them in celebrity jeopardy by Dave Mustaine).

Careful, Zaph, you'll drive that bear straight into ISIS' welcoming arms.
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#21
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The **** does Zappa have anything to do with this? Grasping at staws, man...


That's what Zappa would say in this situation. But then again, in his mind he was always relevant, so maybe not.
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#22
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That's what Zappa would say in this situation. But then again, in his mind he was always relevant, so maybe not.

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#24
TBH i never understood the appeal of chopping someone's head off. shit's pretty weird and straight up classless really.




#26
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TBH i never understood the appeal of chopping someone's head off. shit's pretty weird and straight up classless really.


I understand if you're gonna do something with the head like mount it somewhere, but just cutting it off seems silly.
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#28
daytripper and I covered this in the last thread.

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#29
second and third generation immigrants from Islamic backgrounds often feel like they are not a part of the community/country they are born in. Its not unique to Muslims, but its the most prevalent here in the UK. They don't feel a part of society and so turn to these ideals. There are many causes as to why they feel rejected by society, and we need to address these, else a lot more are going to leave and cause problems
#30
ISIS is a catch-all term used by English speakers to refer to all the different warring factions in the Middle East. The clue is in the name, "ISIS", i.e. 'Islamic State of Iraq and Syria'... Hello! It's English! Why the hell would a Middle Eastern terrorist group comprised of people that don't speak English and who apparently want to 'Destroy the West' brand themselves with a Western English name!



Saying that you're joining 'ISIS' is the equivalent of saying you're joining Europe in WW2!
#32
I'm not sure whether I agree with this 100%, but this is from an article I read a few days ago about the arrests of two teenagers who planned to join ISIS and one of them had planned to strike where I live if he was unable to join ISIS in Syria.

"Youths today are very impressionable, not yet mature enough to differentiate what are ideals and what is practical and reality. They are highly connected to the Internet, they are tech-savvy. This story brings home the fact that we cannot take it for granted," he added.


but whatever the actual reason, I agree with this

Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs Yaacob Ibrahim said the arrests serve as a reminder for "parents, religious teachers, friends and community at large" to remain vigilant. He wrote in a Facebook post on Wednesday: "We must do our utmost to reach out to young people who are in search of answers to problems confronting their generation.'
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#33
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They seem to agree with their cause. Leaving behind your home and easy life to fight for a cause you truly believe in is nothing new and shrugging it off as just a few people thinking they're gonna 'have fun' fighting for rebel groups in the Middle East like some of you twats seem to be doing is beyond idiotic.


Why they seem to be willing to do so for the ideals of the Islamic State is more of a mystery. I'm guessing religious fundamentalism plays its own role in all of this but from what I know the IS is also known for very effective propaganda. They probably know how to present their cause as more righteous and just than we se it.



Either way, painting these people as braindead manchildren who just decided to leave their life behind on a whim isn't much, if at all smarter than what they're doing.

at burg for the somalian pirates song tho


JamSession's settled it, guys. Everyone's doing it for the same reason. People from many different countries and backgrounds are all doing it for the same exact reason. Couldn't be any variation in there. Not even a little bit. I mean, especially with social media reaching younger and younger kids, and more people in general. I can't imagine there's some kid out there who wants to be part of the buzz for reasons he doesn't he even understand. There's just no way that would ever happen.
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#34
@yogosan: DAESH is the real abbreviated name (in romanised letters) but no it's one specific group.
#35
ahh I knew there was a better name to use than ISIS from the last time we discussed this but I forgot what it was!
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#36
Sunni Muslims. There's your problem.
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#37
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JamSession's settled it, guys. Everyone's doing it for the same reason. People from many different countries and backgrounds are all doing it for the same exact reason. Couldn't be any variation in there. Not even a little bit. I mean, especially with social media reaching younger and younger kids, and more people in general. I can't imagine there's some kid out there who wants to be part of the buzz for reasons he doesn't he even understand. There's just no way that would ever happen.

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Sunni Muslims. There's your problem.

Isn't that like 70% of them?


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#38
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Isn't that like 70% of them?

Yes, which is why no one's doing anything about ISIS apart from Iran.
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#40
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im not your mom, dont put shit into my mouth


First of all, what does that even mean? Do people typically put poop into their mothers' mouths where you're from? And second, this is an extremist presence that's unique in many ways to movements of the past because of how easily its actions are learned about around the world combined with the sheer brutality etc. Did you know that ISIS is actively using social media outlets to try to influence kids that just want to be part of something dangerous and controversial and gain attention? Make no mistake, there are stupid people who are doing stupid things, and some of those same people are trying to join ISIS for stupid reasons.
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