#1
Hi guys

The Celestion Seventy 80 has to go. I've given it long enough now and it really isn't doing it for me. It seems harsh, brittle and trebly and no different from day one. I think the other band members are getting sick of me whinging about tone now so something has to give!

I play classic rock from 70's to present day through my Marshall DSL40c, pretty much always on the green crunch channel with a little added OD from my Boss GT-100 in 4CM. Then use the red lead channels for my lead boost.

I've been scouring the net for ever now reading countless reviews on different speakers and I think I've narrowed it down to.

Celestion G12M-65 Creamback
http://www.watfordvalves.com/product_detail.asp?id=3111

or

Celestion Vintage 30
http://www.watfordvalves.com/product_detail.asp?id=3282

I had an 8 Ohm V30 in my old Spider Valve MKII 112 and it wasn't a bad speaker but didn't blow my socks off either. It may well perform a lot better in the DSL40c though.

I'm assuming that it wouldn't matter or make any difference whether I bought the 8 or 16 Ohm version of whichever speaker I get as long as I plug it into the correct socket? Probably best to just stick with a 16 Ohm speaker though as that's what it comes with as stock?

The money is burning a hole in my pocket so I need to make a purchase asap!

Thanks all for any advice.
#2
I have a 70/80 in my Blackstar HT40, I don't care for it either. Although what did make a huge difference was adding an EQ to my line up (Specifically in the effects loop, I just let it sit on the amp). It changed everything so I didnt bother changing the speaker. I use an MXR 10 band. If you do want to change speakers the Creamback seems like what you might need
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#3
The 70/80 is a well known POS but consider that if you go with a V30 it's going to take a good while before it sounds as well as it can, as they've a significant break-in period.

Not trying to scare you away from one, as they are a good piece of kit, but wouldn't want you to get it and be disappointed because you expected a cure from your "harsh and trebly" as soon as you plug it in.
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#4
^ yeah

i haven't tried the creamback but assuming it sounds broadly similar to the lower wattage greenback that's the way I'd be erring for classic rock tones.

though the creamback version of the g12h30 would also be worth considering (again, I haven't tried it, just the older lower wattage version).

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I'm assuming that it wouldn't matter or make any difference whether I bought the 8 or 16 Ohm version of whichever speaker I get as long as I plug it into the correct socket? Probably best to just stick with a 16 Ohm speaker though as that's what it comes with as stock?


yep pretty much.

shouldn't matter if you match sockets but it's probably less confusing and less likely for you (or someone else) to accidentally plug it into the wrong socket if you get the impedance the same as the stock speaker.
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#5
Thanks all. I think I'm sold on the Creamback. Anything has got to be better than the Seventy 80 anyway!
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A 16 ohm version is more likely to be useable in other configurations.
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A 16 ohm version is more likely to be useable in other configurations.


very valid point.
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#8
I have not used a Creamback but a V30 came in my Mesa and I am continually surprised by how good that amp sounds. I also ran a G12h30 in an extension cab for a while. It was very good but I liked the V30 better.
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