#1
Okay, I've made several posts here about myself looking for a good amp, but I keep coming by new things that I can't try out so I just want to run it by you guys.

I play mostly blues rock / hard rock / psychadelic rock type stuff. Biggest influences to me would be Monster Truck, Reignwolf, The Sheepdogs, Rival Sons, My Morning Jacket, Slash ft. Myles, The Black Keys, Foo Fighters, Heaven's Basement, Jet, Pearl Jam, and of course all of the classics like Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Thin Lizzy (the biggest one), KISS, Hendrix, Clapton, Frampton, the Stones, etc...

The one head I've been looking at was the Jet City JCA100HDM, and I found that after someone suggested the 22H for the genres I commonly play. I've been extremely interested in that and I've looked all around for one within the nearest ~800km and I still can't find one without a deadly shipping price.

Next on the list is the TITAN Custom that I literally JUST found which made me want to post this. The same dude who posted pretty much every good Jet City review also posted a bunch on the TITAN and I must say it's got a much bigger thick and full feel than the Jet City. I still love the 100HDM with a passion but the TITAN has the thickness of the Super Lead which makes me melt inside.

The price difference between the two is okay. About $600 CAD new for the JCA and $1,350 for the TITAN. I still can't spend the full price yet, but things are coming together now in life and it shouldn't be a problem.

As for the make, Jet City's amplifiers are made in China while the TITAN is hand made by a dude named Zach in the US.

Here is a shootout, the JCA is the second and the TITAN is the third:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L181_gbyiI8

Only difference is the fact that the JCA is only the JCA100H and not the HDM. It's just missing the depth control and 50 / 100 watt control switch.

Now it comes down to the obvious question: which is better for me?
The 22H was suggested because of my musical influences and the gear I'd be using (boost/overdrive, fuzzboxes, then your usual delays and flangers and such.
Would the TITAN be good for what I'm doing or is it best that I stick with the JCA?
Last edited by Distophase at Jun 11, 2015,
#2
I recommend (and I'm not doing this to be a jerk) you just buy an amp.

And I'm mocking myself when I say this, because I've been agonizing over the decision for 2 years. I wish that I had just gotten something rather than worry so much about picking the "right" thing.

It will lose a little value, but not too much. Just get something, figure out if it suits you. Eventually you'll know.

When I was just starting to look around there was a Randall combo of some sort that I dismissed because it was a Randall and I thought I needed something other than that. It was on super mark-down sale at the Guitar Center. Worst of all, I actually really liked the way it sounded and I turned it down anyways. I wish I'd just bought that damn thing.
#3
you just have to make a decision. you seem to know what you like, and where you interests lie.

that isn't the best recording in that video though.

sometimes you may be wrong, but sell it and move it on to something else. i always buy used at a good place, and if i sell it used, i always get within +/-20% of what i paid for. or you can just hoard like me . i am sitting on 23 electrics, and ~15 tube amps, and two nice hybrids. i enjoy buying gear, its fun for me. its part of the game of playing is new gear. but not everybody is like me.
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#5
Quote by diabolical
Don't you have good prices on Traynor over there? Get one of the combos or head+cab.

+1

look for a Traynor YCS100H - three channels with dedicated EQ, reverb and master for each channel and will do from clean to the brootz plus everything in between. should be able to find one used for $500-$650CAD
#6
Quote by paul.housley.7
I recommend (and I'm not doing this to be a jerk) you just buy an amp.

Quote by trashedlostfdup
you just have to make a decision. you seem to know what you like, and where you interests lie.

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Don't you have good prices on Traynor over there? Get one of the combos or head+cab.

Quote by guitarsngear
+1

look for a Traynor YCS100H - three channels with dedicated EQ, reverb and master for each channel and will do from clean to the brootz plus everything in between. should be able to find one used for $500-$650CAD


I already have an amp, by the way. I forgot to mention that. Peavey Valveking 212 combo.

The reason I don't want to just jump and buy something is because of the Peavey. I jumped, and I got good use out of it, but as soon as I got it I was stuck with it and realized that it really wasn't for me. I've gone through every possible combination with it and it still doesn't satisfy me except for the clarity and the fact that it has an EQ for both channels.

I want to look for something that satisfies me. Some thing that's better than the Valveking. I'm also not really looking to collect or hoard gear at the moment because I just don't have the space. I have the space for two cabs side-by-side and I could have two heads on each if I wanted. The L&M here has a few Traynors and I've tried them recently but they're less to me than the Valveking.

All I'm looking for really is input and suggestions. If there's anything good you know of or if you've personally used either of the two I mentioned. There is no good gear here within 500km that I can try out so I don't want to pretty much blindly get something online that I'll be in the same situation with as I am with the Valveking.
Last edited by Distophase at Jun 12, 2015,
#8
Quote by 311ZOSOVHJH
Another vote for the Traynor YCS100.

Will nail the tones you are after and Made in Canada.

Is Titan still supporting amps? I heard there was some kind of fallout. Don't quote me on that.

Whereabouts in Canada are you?

You were a big help on my other threads. In Nova Scotia, Canada. Cape Breton Island to be exact.
#9
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5057243337.html Peavey Classic 30
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5063017097.html Bugera V22
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5026968530.html Vox AC15CC
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5070102627.html Fender SuperSonic
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5031980044.html Rivera 55
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5067325774.html Vox AC50
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5066639344.html Fender SuperChamp XD
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5025366246.html Peavey Classic 100 head
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5068538605.html Orange Dual Terror
http://maine.craigslist.org/msg/5050316625.html Egnater Tourmaster


Not a big fan of Bugera - but I did like the Bug V22. Will need a boost.
Not sure how that SuperChamp would hold up for your heavier stuff but it is a great amp.
The Tourmaster, Classic 30, SuperSonic or Rivera would be nice, even though they are not all heads.
I still like the Traynor idea.
#11
I'll give Traynor a second chance. It'll be a few months before I get to check out a real stock of them but I guess I'll have to make the wait. Thanks, guys.
#12
Based on what you are looking for have you considered the Peavey JSX or the Peavey 3120, both are very versatile amps and available on Kijiji in your area.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-amp-pedal/cape-breton/peavey-3120-amp/1045712571
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-amp-pedal/cape-breton/peavey-jsx-joe-satriani-sig-120w-tube-head-mint-condition/1066747141?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

the 3120 is also selling with a cab if you need it, or if you don't and you can get the seller to break them up the price will adjust.
#13
Quote by guitarsngear
Based on what you are looking for have you considered the Peavey JSX or the Peavey 3120, both are very versatile amps and available on Kijiji in your area.
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-amp-pedal/cape-breton/peavey-3120-amp/1045712571
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-amp-pedal/cape-breton/peavey-jsx-joe-satriani-sig-120w-tube-head-mint-condition/1066747141?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

the 3120 is also selling with a cab if you need it, or if you don't and you can get the seller to break them up the price will adjust.

I saw the ad for the JSX but I hadn't seen the 3120. The 3120 is about 5 or 10 minutes from me and the JSX is another 5 or 10 from there so I may as well run in and take a look.

Thanks for pointing them out!

EDIT: Replied to the 3120 ad. Found a video that had the Valveking + The JSX AND the 3120 in it in order and even though it was a terribly made video the 3120 stuck out more. Since it's a $999 head going for $700 in showroom condition with a cab, I'm really interested.
Last edited by Distophase at Jun 13, 2015,
#14
JSX is a great amp
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#16
Sigh, I'll give them both a chance. Just want something that responds nicely to my gear and something that's not too much...bwah-in-your-ears. Since neither of them are responding right now, what are they like to you?
Last edited by Distophase at Jun 13, 2015,
#17
Just to let you guys know, the cab in the 3120 ad is loaded with Black Widows. Rig is mint and hardly broken in. $2,100 before tax new, selling for $700. No doubt could make $400 back from the head to pick up the JSX if I wanted. The 3120 dude is selling it as one package.
Last edited by Distophase at Jun 13, 2015,
#18
The 3120 is essentially a Peavey XXX with a new name. The JSX is a better version of the XXX to keep things simple. Therefore, they are both in the same camp. They are very similar. Both have the Peavey high gain thing going on and basic cleans. Be patient try them both out. The 3120 will take EL34s out of the gate which is probably what I'd do with it. Load it up with JJ tubes to tame the brightness. If the Black Widows are just sitting in a no name cab that may be good may be bad. Hard to say. I'd probably go for it if the whole thing is $700.

That said, you could find a used XXX head for around $300 and then pair that with a killer 2x12 cab for $300.
#19
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Just to let you guys know, the cab in the 3120 ad is loaded with Black Widows. Rig is mint and hardly broken in. $2,100 before tax new, selling for $700. No doubt could make $400 back from the head to pick up the JSX if I wanted. The 3120 dude is selling it as one package.

The JSX is a better amp than the XXX/3120 is for a well rounded sound. The 3120/XX is a more aggressive amp, but IMO the JSX kills it

BW loaded cabs are actually pretty damn nice
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#20
The cab is a Peavey cab, I don't know where the Black Widows are from but he says they have as much use as the tubes in the amp. The shitty thing is, the JSX guy sold his cab, his only set of speakers, so I can't try it out while I'm there. It does seem better to me control-wise just because of the built-in noise gate, resonance and presence control plus the "fat" switches for both gain channels. Both have the footswitches.

I'm pretty sure the JSX is also the XXX ii rather than the XXX. It's the newer model, the only difference between the two is the ii has the fancy extra stuff like the noise gate and such.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go for the 3120 and cab, then possibly sell the Widows and the 3120 to buy the JSX and a less pricey set of speakers. If I do that, any clue what speakers should sound good?
Last edited by Distophase at Jun 14, 2015,
#21
Quote by Distophase
The cab is a Peavey cab, I don't know where the Black Widows are from but he says they have as much use as the tubes in the amp. The shitty thing is, the JSX guy sold his cab, his only set of speakers, so I can't try it out while I'm there. It does seem better to me control-wise just because of the built-in noise gate, resonance and presence control plus the "fat" switches for both gain channels. Both have the footswitches.

I'm pretty sure the JSX is also the XXX ii rather than the XXX. It's the newer model, the only difference between the two is the ii has the fancy extra stuff like the noise gate and such.

I'm pretty sure I'm going to go for the 3120 and cab, then possibly sell the Widows and the 3120 to buy the JSX and a less pricey set of speakers. If I do that, any clue what speakers should sound good?

The JSX and XXX II are the exact same amp with a different name, the same with the original XXX and the 3120 they are the exact same also

You can buy a V30 loaded 4x12 for cheap, I wouldn't part the peavey cab out. I'd just go for the JSX and get a decent cab.

If you want the 3120 and the peavey cab, that is fine also
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#22
Quote by Robbgnarly
The JSX and XXX II are the exact same amp with a different name, the same with the original XXX and the 3120 they are the exact same also

You can buy a V30 loaded 4x12 for cheap, I wouldn't part the peavey cab out. I'd just go for the JSX and get a decent cab.

If you want the 3120 and the peavey cab, that is fine also

The local music store has a buttload of affordable V30 cabs so I like that idea. I'd just like to do the extra work of moving things around because I don't have a terribly large budget to spend so making a few bucks back off of the 3120 + BW cab deal could be a good thing. Still trying to get a little more cash together. If I do that, too, I might have a buyer all lined up for the head. I just sold an Ibanez RG series yesterday to a guy who's just getting back in the studio after 5 years and he doesn't have any gear so he's trying to grab some cheaper stuff.

Just have to play the cards right.
Last edited by Distophase at Jun 14, 2015,
#23
It is possible JSX guy is selling a bad amp and hiding speakers on purpose. Just something to think about.

JSX is much better amp though. Buddy bought 1960a Marshall cab used for $350 and sounded fantastic with that amp.
#24
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It is possible JSX guy is selling a bad amp and hiding speakers on purpose. Just something to think about.

JSX is much better amp though. Buddy bought 1960a Marshall cab used for $350 and sounded fantastic with that amp.


yea, i would NEVER buy a tube amp i cannot demo in person from CL. if it is over the internet, only if there are references and paypal.

there seem to be two kind of guys on CL. ones that are nice with good intentions and are just getting along, and a small portion of people trying to ditch something they can't get rid of. it sucks that the small portion is a presence at all though.
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#25
^ yeah you do need to check it out 1st. maybe have him meet you at the local music store so you can try it there with a good cab if the seller is willing to do that.
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