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I've just been wondering how long bands have been playing palm muted open strings in their songs similar to how Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack!, and other bands have in the past few years? Or was it first popularized in the mid 2000s? I'm just super curious.
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I've just been wondering how long bands have been playing palm muted open strings in their songs similar to how Asking Alexandria, Attack Attack!, and other bands have in the past few years? Or was it first popularized in the mid 2000s? I'm just super curious.



Asking Alexandria and Attack Attack! are pretty much the most innovative bands of our era, TS. I mean, the mid 2000's was just a few years ago.
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It was popularized by Meshuggah (from the implication of your description), and later bastardized/watered-down/sapped of all of its essence, by literally every butt-metal band after.
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Also TS, the proper term for those bands is called Djent. Don't go to other music forums without this knowledge or they will shame you.
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Also TS, the proper term for those bands is called Djent. Don't go to other music forums without this knowledge or they will shame you.


I mean, I know of djent, but I was just talking about those bands that will have breakdowns of mostly palm muted open strings. I was just curious as to what started that trend.
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It was popularized by Meshuggah (from the implication of your description), and later bastardized/watered-down/sapped of all of its essence, by literally every butt-metal band after.


No, you need to go back further than that.

It's always been a staple of metal riffs since at least the early 80's. Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer riffs all had open note, heavy palm mute triplet riffs played at speed, this idea just evolved slowly until around the time Pantera got popular, and then they made everything really simple and shitty, and then nu-metal was like 'oh yeah, this works' so then simple and shitty became normal.

Perhaps Meshuggah have more to do with it now but didnt when the phenomenon actually started and much less than is obvious considering Meshuggah had a certain complexity above open 0 notes, even on Nothing and Catch 33.

You can basically blame it on bands like KSE and the Acacia Strain who took all the 90's metalcore breakdowns and just used open note riffs all the time, thus creating a trickle-down version of what we have now.
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No, you need to go back further than that.

It's always been a staple of metal riffs since at least the early 80's. Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer riffs all had open note, heavy palm mute triplet riffs played at speed, this idea just evolved slowly until around the time Pantera got popular, and then they made everything really simple and shitty, and then nu-metal was like 'oh yeah, this works' so then simple and shitty became normal.

Perhaps Meshuggah have more to do with it now but didnt when the phenomenon actually started and much less than is obvious considering Meshuggah had a certain complexity above open 0 notes, even on Nothing and Catch 33.

You can basically blame it on bands like KSE and the Acacia Strain who took all the 90's metalcore breakdowns and just used open note riffs all the time, thus creating a trickle-down version of what we have now.


Ah, okay. That answers my question, thanks!
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No, you need to go back further than that.

It's always been a staple of metal riffs since at least the early 80's. Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer riffs all had open note, heavy palm mute triplet riffs played at speed, this idea just evolved slowly until around the time Pantera got popular, and then they made everything really simple and shitty, and then nu-metal was like 'oh yeah, this works' so then simple and shitty became normal.

Perhaps Meshuggah have more to do with it now but didnt when the phenomenon actually started and much less than is obvious considering Meshuggah had a certain complexity above open 0 notes, even on Nothing and Catch 33.

You can basically blame it on bands like KSE and the Acacia Strain who took all the 90's metalcore breakdowns and just used open note riffs all the time, thus creating a trickle-down version of what we have now.


True. Been around since before Sabbath and whatnot, but assumed he meant the djent 'sustain palm-mute/open fretted' notes. Good post good post
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Their strings are either tuned so low or are so out of tune it doesn't matter what notes they're playing anyway.
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I haven't really cared to find out who exactly started the open-note "br00tz" chugs, but as everyone else said, it's a watered-down version of 80s/90s metal breakdowns.

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heavy palm mute triplet riffs played at speed


Most bands used a "galloped" rhythm which is reminiscent of a horse galloping (hence the namesake). It's usually an 8th note followed by two 16th, but it's also common to have two 16ths followed by an 8th note.

Even though there are three notes in one beat, it's not a triplet. A triplet is where the notes are of equal length in a given beat. So, in one beat in 4/4, there would be 3 8th note triplets in that beat.

Sorry for sounding like an ass/jerk/know-it-all/etc. I just thought I'd share some knowledge.
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^^tbf, all three can be 16ths too sometimes (if your picking hand is teh swolez)


Yep, there's 16ths, too. But for the most part, 8th note triplets seem to be a bit more common.
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