Poll: Humbucker, or singles?
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View poll results: Humbucker, or singles?
All singles
12 29%
Throw in a humbucker
29 71%
Voters: 41.
#1
I am shopping around for a Fender Strat , and I am torn.....
I have seen some standard Strats with 3 single coils, as well as some Strats with 2 singles and a humbucker for the same price. So, I am taking it to the masses..... To humbucker, or not to humbucker? That is the question...
#3
My music style covers different genres: country, oldies/surfer rock, occasionally blues, and southern rock mainly. I have tried out both of these guitars at Guitar Center, and both sounded really nice.
#5
I have an HSS myself and i wouldn't trade it for anyhing, you can basicly play every genre and it can reach the limits of heavynes by that humbucker combined with the right amp settings.
#6
I'd get a HH but I play metal
But really, I'd get the Hss
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#8
That depends, although generally I'd say HSS is probably going to be a better/more versatile option in any case except 1) when you really want that super-nasal twangy sound of a bridge single coil, 2) as above, it feels wrong for you for whatever reason if it's not SSS. But still, I think you get tons of single coil tons with middle and neck single coil pickups already, and a humbucker will open a lot of additional possibilites.
#9
Have a HSS strat with a coil splitter on the h so can get both sounds. Don't know if they make them anymore. Mine is from 1985.
#10
Quote by dtvfd753
My music style covers different genres: country, oldies/surfer rock, occasionally blues, and southern rock mainly. I have tried out both of these guitars at Guitar Center, and both sounded really nice.


You should get the SSS for what you want, IMO.
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#11
If you can rent a strat, maybe try that and see if you use the bridge pup.
I never used it, so I replaced it with a jbjr(minihumbucker), and I use that a lot.
#12
Quote by dtvfd753
My music style covers different genres: country, oldies/surfer rock, occasionally blues, and southern rock mainly. I have tried out both of these guitars at Guitar Center, and both sounded really nice.


For those genres I'd get an SSS
#13
Quote by Offworld92
You should get the SSS for what you want, IMO.


Agreed.

Though that's not to say he might not prefer HSS- there's no accounting for taste, as they say.

Worth pointing out- it's not the end of the world whichever way you go. USA strats should be routed for a bridge humbucker even if you go with the SSS version (i think ), so if you change your mind later you can just buy a new pickguard and a humbucker and wire it up.
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#14
Quote by Dave_Mc
Agreed.

Though that's not to say he might not prefer HSS- there's no accounting for taste, as they say.

Worth pointing out- it's not the end of the world whichever way you go. USA strats should be routed for a bridge humbucker even if you go with the SSS version (i think ), so if you change your mind later you can just buy a new pickguard and a humbucker and wire it up.


yes they are routed for a ful sized humbucker. of course there are other options as well. if you get an SSS strat you can always change the pickups to nose canceling or stacked humbuckers ans still retain most of the natural strat sound.

personally i'd go with a SSS for what you play.
#15
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#16
I purchased a USA standard strat and got the SSS model. I ended up putting in a humbucker into the bridge.....had to buy a new pickguard.

Might as well get the HSS....if you want a single coil-ish sound, you can split the humbucker...sounds pretty similar from what I remember at least.
#17
I've always been an HSS guy so as long as the humbucker has coil split. It won't be exactly like a single coil in sound as they usually are on a strat, but definatley more in the "close enough" territory for it to not matter that much. All of my strats have bridge humbuckers.
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#18
It is strictly personal preference, but I would go HSS. The standard type of SC neck pickup has always seemed like too much of a good thing to me - IMO the mellower tones of a humbucker neck are a better match to the middle and neck singles. The sounds I like more or less in line with your genres not too hot or distorted.

You can always add a coil split or parallel switch if you want more single-like sounds.
#19
Never liked stock Fender humbuckers. Single coils is what they know and excel at. Not to say I don't like humbuckers in Strats, because I do - a lot. I only argue that you'd be better off with aftermarket pickups than stock ones.

Quote by bigblockelectra
I purchased a USA standard strat and got the SSS model. I ended up putting in a humbucker into the bridge.....had to buy a new pickguard.

Might as well get the HSS....if you want a single coil-ish sound, you can split the humbucker...sounds pretty similar from what I remember at least.


Never heard of single-coil-sized humbuckers? They drop straight in, and have a more focused and less 'woofy' tone. You might find they're just your thing. I certainly did!
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#20
It really depends on what style of music you want to play, but if you're just going for versatility, an HSS strat is definitely one of your best options. I can go from metal in the bridge to totally clean tones with the flip of the selector with mine. I'd recommend it.
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#21
Quote by zigras
Have a HSS strat with a coil splitter on the h so can get both sounds. Don't know if they make them anymore. Mine is from 1985.


A split humbucker is nowhere near a single coil. True single coil PUs have stronger outputs than 1/2 a humbucker would.
It really depends on whether or not someone wants those 2 out of phase sounds in positions 2 & 4 on the selector switch. If you do SSS is the way to go.
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#23
Quote by KenG
True single coil PUs have stronger outputs than 1/2 a humbucker would.


Depends on the humbucker and the single coil in question. a hotter humbucker split should be easily as hot as a low/vintage output single coil. Granted, a paf-output humbucker split will be weaker.

Don't get me wrong, I agree a split humbucker doesn't sound exactly the same as a "true" single coil, but output probably isn't the reason, at least if you choose judiciously.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#24
The problem I see with trying to get a reasonable single coil (or parallel) output from a humbucker is the tonal quality in series mode. -Too hot.

Someone, somewhere, noted that alnico-slug humbuckers sound more like single coils when split than traditional iron-pole types. Not surprising if you think about it.
#25
Country and Surf? I don't even see how a humbucker is in consideration...
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#26
Quote by Dave_Mc
Depends on the humbucker and the single coil in question. a hotter humbucker split should be easily as hot as a low/vintage output single coil. Granted, a paf-output humbucker split will be weaker.

Don't get me wrong, I agree a split humbucker doesn't sound exactly the same as a "true" single coil, but output probably isn't the reason, at least if you choose judiciously.


humbuckers aren't put together the same as strat or tele pickups. magnets are positioned differently and of course the number of windings etc isn't the same. splitting a humbucker definitely affects the output although as you mentioned depending on the pickup it may be close.
#27
^ Agreed.

Quote by Tony Done
(a) The problem I see with trying to get a reasonable single coil (or parallel) output from a humbucker is the tonal quality in series mode. -Too hot.

(b) Someone, somewhere, noted that alnico-slug humbuckers sound more like single coils when split than traditional iron-pole types. Not surprising if you think about it.


(a) Well, too hot if you want a Paf-type. Not too hot if you're ok with fairly hot pickups. But definitely a point worth making if you want vintage output humbuckers- you can get humbuckers which split to something approaching the "proper" output of "real" single coils, but it limits your choice when it comes to humbuckers.

(b) Yep, it makes sense (in theory, I haven't tried any). The flaw in that plan is that (presumably) the full-on series humbucker tone isn't as authentic, for the same reason- now you have a humbucker which doesn't have the same construction as a regular humbucker. And if you're getting a humbucker guitar (again, presumably) the humbucker tone is more important to you.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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