#1
Picked this up a while ago, and just got around to getting more pics to help identify it, I am stumped, can you help?

I found plenty on the guitars from Crestline, but zip for an amp besides Gibson. This thing is missing the back of it, didn't have it when I got it. Real sturdy though, and sounds SUPER Twangy


I know the speaker is a Quam Nichols from 1959, but other than that??


Last edited by pks330 at Jun 26, 2015,
#2
Holy doo-dang-diddly that's a simple circuit. You've got maybe 10$ worth of parts, an inexpensive transformer and a speaker in a cool (but beat-up) cabinet.

I know absolutely nothing about the amp but from looking at the pictures I can't imagine that it cost much when it was new. I'm interested in hearing more.

I'm not trying to put it down. It's really cool. It deserves to be cleaned up.
#3
Does it work? It looks classy! It reminds me of my parent's tv when I was a kid, lol, the old floor model wooden console type tv. I'd trade my wall mounted hdtv for a mint floor model with faux wood grain anyday of the week!

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#4
Holy doo-dang-diddl




Very cool amp you got there! Share a clip.
#6
It looks heavy. Is that solid wood? Kinda looks like the amp was put in a homemade cabinet. Nice. I'll bet the sound is very unique. have fun with it.
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#7
Quote by pks330
Picked this up a while ago, and just got around to getting more pics to help identify it, I am stumped, can you help?

I found plenty on the guitars from Crestline, but zip for an amp besides Gibson. This thing is missing the back of it, didn't have it when I got it. Real sturdy though, and sounds SUPER Twangy


I know the speaker is a Quam Nichols from 1959, but other than that??



Very Very interesting. I'm not even sure if someone even created the cabinet and fitted the amplifier tray/assembly using an old speaker or if it is factory?.

One thing for sure is if you have correctly identified the speaker from 1959 and that amplifier tray/assembly is anywhere near as old as the speaker you have something very special and possibly valuable. As far as I know (and will accept correction if needed) the first fully solid state guitar amps appeared somewhere between 1961 & 64?

Antiques roadshow job? Maybe an electronics tech can identify the old components. They look old style but in pristine condition. A 1959 speaker alone in that condition has to worth some good money

Good Luck
Last edited by Yola_Yola at Jun 29, 2015,
#8
There was a company in Wallins, KY called Wallins Electronic Manufacturing Company that sold amplifiers under the Crestline name. I saw one or two of them in the mid-1970s, but that's about it. Without any markings, I cannot say that your amp was made by Wallins EMC, but it might have been.

"Crestline" is one of those names that a lot of small and re-branding companies have used over the years. Why that is, I do not know. But you are correct: Your "Crestline" is not one of the amplifiers made by "Crestline" that was re-branded by Gibson.

So how does it sound? In the end, that - and the fact that you like it - are all that matters.
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Last edited by FatalGear41 at Jun 30, 2015,
#9
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I saw one or two of them in the mid-1070s, but that's about it.


Are you the Highlander? I didn't realise they had electric guitars then!
#10
Either I am the Highlander, or it was a typo!
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#11
Figured I'd dredge this back up in hopes of more info. Can anyone confirm the date of first solidstate amp as noted above? If that is true, it reeeaaally makes me wonder about this things origin.
#12
Actually on my own research: this amplifier was produced in the 50s or 60's out of Cleveland Ohio by Grossman Musical instrument company, which was purchased by Grover at some point. The company was established in 1948. Here are some links:

Connects Grossman and Crestline: http://drowninginguitars.com/2012/02/12/1960s-japanese-guitar-brand-name-game/

Copywrights held: https://inventively.com/search/trademarks/72291606

This is more copywrights: states crestline was first sold in 1957, which could place this amp as the first solid state amplifier ever made and forgotten!!: https://trademarks.justia.com/722/91/crestline-72291606.html

Business info: http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/pls/bsqry/f?p=100:7:564476838811::NO:7:P7_CHARTER_NUM:211116

They were Gibson retailers: https://books.google.com/books?id=fgTGl1OoYHgC&pg=PA199&lpg=PA199&dq=grossman+music+corporation&source=bl&ots=_May0WL85V&sig=cd8-gFu_2N5Cgud3yOEFCBJMNRI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjHgOTwr6HJAhVGOCYKHVyaDsw4ChDoAQgkMAA#v=onepage&q=grossman%20music%20corporation&f=false

A book about the company sold for $150.00 crazy? : http://m.ebay.com/itm/271285286787?_mwBanner=1

Says "Grover/Trophy/Grossman" made tons of stuff branded crestline: http://audiotools.com/en_mi_links_go.html

Bunch of people talking about crestline guitars, but not amps: http://www.guitarsite.com/discussion/messages/18038.shtml

Sold legit Gibson in 1930s and repros after: http://www.guitar-museum.com/guitar-41323-Vintage-CRESTLINE-MARAUDER-Copy-Japan-Made

This trademark site contradicts first use back to 1950: http://www.tmfile.com/mark/?q=737023293

Okay so with all this info, (exciting to me) any opinions of course of action to take, and any clue or idea how to determine exact age by circuitry? Could this company have made the first solid state amp and got pilfered by another company? Seems odd Grover owning them, but I guess thats what competition does.

Thanks, hope this also helps anyone searching like I was!
Last edited by pks330 at Nov 21, 2015,
#13
Resurrecting the dead. Thinking of Ebaying this amp, and have no clue what to expect for something like this. It actually doesn't sound too bad for what it looks like.
#14
fits probably not worth more than you would pay postage.

its cool though. i would just keep it and have a cool story.
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Quote by pks330
Resurrecting the dead. Thinking of Ebaying this amp, and have no clue what to expect for something like this. It actually doesn't sound too bad for what it looks like.


Somebody might give you $100 for this amp. I wouldn't but someone might. Good luck!
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#16
Yeah I mean historical or not these aren't a demanded item, you're unlikely to make a ton of money off of it
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