#1
I've been using amp modeling software but now that I'm moving out of an apartment and getting a house soon, I can be a little noisier. There are houses nearby and my wife doesn't want to wear earplugs so I can't get a giant stack, but a smaller amp for practice could be done. Really the smaller the better, as long as sound quality is good.

I live in Japan so the Jet City and some other brands are too expensive to import, but Marshall, Roland etc are here.

I'd like a tube amp, never had one but I know that's where tone is best.

I like to solo - I play stuff like Vai, Satriani, and also I like thrash metal like Metallica and Megadeth. I tend to keep treble and gain high and scoop mids. I have a crybaby from hell wah which I'd like to use with the amp for good harmonics like dimebag.

My main axe is a prestige ibanez with evos and a true velvet middle. I also have an Epi LP with EMG 81/60s but don't play it as much.

Budget is kinda flexible, but $300-400 USD range would be ideal. If unrealistic, I can save up for a while.

Any recommendations?
#3
Pod does respectable hi gain and you can run it through anything you want. Worth a look. A 5w tube amp will often be capable of 105db at full power which is really pretty loud for BR shredding.

http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html
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#4
Sorry I don't mean only marshall and roland but mainly the biggest brands are available. So are tube amps just not an option at lower volumes for shredding?

I'm not sure if a pod would be much of an improvement over amplitube which I have
#5
Blackstar HT-5. Best 5 watt amp, period. Comes in head/cab, or combo. Reasonably priced, also.
#7
most small tube amps around that price range won't give you that saturated lead tone you're looking for. you'd be better off getting a good clean amp, like a Vox AC10 or a Fender Blues Junior, and throw a nice overdrive pedal in front of it. both amps i mentioned take pedal remarkably well.
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#8
I don't know if that brand is available in Japan, but Laboga could be a good fit (see my signature). It's a high gain amp, and with a Tubescreamer in front of it the sound is gorgeous for the styles you want to play.

It can be very neighbour-friendly:
- It has a button to divide the power output by half (30W -> 15W or 15W -> 8W, depending on the model).
- There is a master volume, which allows you to lower the overall volume without altering the distorsion level.
- It has a speaker output (emulated of course) that is reasonably good.

Just one warning: only the 30W model has an effect loop. But on all combo models you can disconnect the preamp from the speaker if you want to use another speaker.

It seems to be sold in Japan, but a bit outside your budget (it's much cheaper in Europe). Sorry, my Japanese is not good enough to know if this website is any good. But it should give you an idea.
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#9
Thanks for the link Yuka66 - yes that's about $1300 USD lol. If you're studying Japanese or looking for ways to get here, let me know and I can answer any questions. From your comment it sounds like you're trying to learn.

Jon - that's one option I'd consider - only thing is I'm not sure if the tones would be much better than modeling software + studio headphones. I can get a lot of decent tones now, but I was thinkingg a tube amp would be a significant improvement. I had a vox 30 watt years ago and the sound was decent but amplitube and headphones comes close in sound and far outshines it in versatility.

I'll look into laney and blackstar too.
#10
Don't worry about the wattage. High wattage doesn't necessarily mean bad bedroom tones. Low wattage doesn't necessarily mean good bedroom tones. I think the best thing to do would be to go to a music store and try some amps at low volume.

Also try modeling amps and multi FX pedals.
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#11
Quote by 21GunSalute
Thanks for the link Yuka66 - yes that's about $1300 USD lol. If you're studying Japanese or looking for ways to get here, let me know and I can answer any questions. From your comment it sounds like you're trying to learn.


I'm indeed learning, and since I'm on holidays at the moment, I can spend more time on both guitar and Japanese. Thanks for your offer.

Even if this amp is too expensive, it can give you some ideas about what kind of features could be nice for you: a master volume pot and a headphone output are good to have on a tube amp when you want to play metal and stay on good terms with your neighbours.
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#12
If you like the amp modeling sounds you're getting now how about adding a nice set of Studio Monitors? Something like KRK? Or you could get a powered PA Wedge (12" and horn).

Basically just amplify the sounds you're getting now.
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#13
Quote by 21GunSalute


I'd like a tube amp, never had one but I know that's where tone is best.


Any recommendations?


First, lose the impression that "tone is best" with tubes. For a lot of guitar playing, and in particular for playing guitar at home, that's simply not the case.

I have half a dozen tube amps in my den, but I do most of my playing these days with a pair of recording monitors (KRK Rokit 8's in my case) and a modeler (Pod HD).

The recording monitors have more bottom end and more top end than any tube amp (particularly the low-power versions), and I can use them for a lot more kinds of music (besides just modeled guitar), including sources like TV, MP3 players, computer, keyboards and even bass practice. They're perfect for a single room (most are nearfield systems designed for optimum listening at about 6-8' or so).

Since it's unlikely that you'll ever get a chance to push even a 1 W tube amp into power tube distortion (nor are you likely to want to do so), there's really no point to a tube amp in a home setting.
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Quote by Cajundaddy
A 5w tube amp will often be capable of 105db at full power which is really pretty loud for BR shredding.


+1

Quote by jon_six
most small tube amps around that price range won't give you that saturated lead tone you're looking for.


+1

Quote by MaggaraMarine
Don't worry about the wattage. High wattage doesn't necessarily mean bad bedroom tones. Low wattage doesn't necessarily mean good bedroom tones. I think the best thing to do would be to go to a music store and try some amps at low volume.

Also try modeling amps and multi FX pedals.


+1

Try tube amps which will do the tones you want (generally high gain amps, often higher wattage but can be turned down) at the volumes you're likely to be playing at (and bear in mind they'll sound quieter in the shop than in your home).

Also use a tubescreamer or boss sd1 as a boost (level high, drive low, tone about 2 o'clock) for the amp's distortion channel, that often gets you better saturation at very low volume levels.
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#15
I use a Carvin v3 head with a Carvin 2x12 and it's the best thing I've ever used.

It's a 50 watt head, but you can use it in 7 watt mode so you can use it really quiet. It has 3 channels and reverb which is unheard of at it's price. Also made in USA unlike the cheaper Marshall amps which are Chinese.

It has huge gain, great cleans, and cool red or blue led's that can be turned on/off. Check em out on Carvins website.
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Quote by Cajundaddy
A 5w tube amp will often be capable of 105db at full power which is really pretty loud for BR shredding.


I'll second that. I have a 2w valve amp. If I run that through my quad box above half volume then it wouldn't be just my immediate neighbours moaning!
#18
I'm going to research the rokit and other monitors. If they look good I'll go that route. Otherwise I'll look more into these other options. Thanks guys