#1
Im thinking of buying a fender mustang III because of the fact that its loud and it has built-in effects. I know that tube amps are better but i cant afford buying effect pedals should i buy the mustang?
#2
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Who told you tube amps are *better*? And why did no one tell Dimebag or Andy Summers or Alex Lifeson or - well, I'm sure you get the point.

What you like, what you want to sound like is the thing to aim for.

In the last year I've bought modelling amps by Fender, Line 6 and Vox and returned them all for a variety of reasons.

I finally settled on a Blackstar ID:15TVP. I don't know how they do it (and don't care much either) but the thing is bloody brilliant for what I need and sounds amazing. Cool effects and editing facilities just pour more sugar on an already sweet deal.

Buy what you like best within your budget.
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Who told you tube amps are *better*? And why did no one tell Dimebag or Andy Summers or Alex Lifeson or - well, I'm sure you get the point.

What you like, what you want to sound like is the thing to aim for.

In the last year I've bought modelling amps by Fender, Line 6 and Vox and returned them all for a variety of reasons.

I finally settled on a Blackstar ID:15TVP. I don't know how they do it (and don't care much either) but the thing is bloody brilliant for what I need and sounds amazing. Cool effects and editing facilities just pour more sugar on an already sweet deal.

Buy what you like best within your budget.



Honestly you can't really consider those 2 purely solid state users considering the many years they used tube amps (and the fact that they do today). Summers has used Mesa Boogie amps (Mk IIc +), Fenders (twins), Marshalls and the like (and is reputed is only use the JC120 on Synchronicity anyway). Lifeson's classic riffs and shit from the older albums are all Marshall and the newer (post 2003) stuff is all done on HK tube amps.


Dimebag sure, but that's what I would consider an 'acquired taste' if you dig his sound. AND guess what? He went tube before he died as well (Krank).


I get your point but the last two aren't really a great example IMO.


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What you like, what you want to sound like is the thing to aim for.


Buy what you like best within your budget.


That I can agree with though.


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#5
If you want a lot of versatility for practice then a modeling unit is good to have. But you aren't going to end up with 20 amps in 1, it's 20 simulations in 1 (or how ever many sims the mustang has). It can help you find what tones you like and how to get them, and what effects you would use in the future. Then you can buy a standalone amp and single stomp boxes in the future when you know exactly what you want.
#7
Who says you can't afford effects pedals?
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dmi&field-keywords=joyo

Seriously, though, you will quickly outgrow any sort of perceived notion of a good tone coming from most modeling amps.
You can find great used tube amps all the time that probably are right around the price of that Mustang III. There are plenty of other amps that are just as loud, if not louder, than the Mustang.
My tube amp is only 15 watts, and if I turn it up anywhere near 12 o'clock on the master volume, I can blow the windows out of my neighbor's house.
Also, we need to know more about what you want.
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Honestly you can't really consider those 2 purely solid state users


I didn't say they were - just trying to make the point that valve driven amps are far from the only route available.

#9
I have never used a piece of modeling gear or software that wasn’t a huge letdown. Obviously tube amps aren’t perfect, but even the worst tube amps are still better than ****īng around with modelers.
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I have never used a piece of modeling gear or software that wasn’t a huge letdown. Obviously tube amps aren’t perfect, but even the worst tube amps are still better than ****īng around with modelers.


No, they arent.
Bad tube amps are better than bad modelers, but not good modelers. The amp TS asked about is quite good.

But do what spambot recommended TS
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#12
Look at Jet City.
If you're absolutely sold on a modeler, you could search for a Vox Valvetronix. They have a single tube in the power stage.
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#13
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#15
If you don't know what tube amp you need then spend more time modelling until you know what you want. Its the whole point of modelling.

See Line 6 Amplifi or Peavy for example.
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#16
Is this going to be your first amp? If yes, a modeling amp is a great choice. I would say better than buying a tube amp + cheap effect pedals. Modeling amps sound decent for practicing and give you a lot of different kind of tones. It gets you familiar with different kind of tones and will help you with future amp purchases, because by using a modeling amp you'll learn what kind of amp tones you like and what kind of effects you need. The amp models get close enough to give you an idea of how the different amps will sound like (of course the real thing will sound better).

It's also a good choice if your current amp is a generic starter pack amp.


But yeah, it would help if you told us your budget, favorite bands and current gear, and also if you want to gig with it or just play in your bedroom.
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[quote="But yeah, it would help if you told us your budget, favorite bands and current gear, and also if you want to gig with it or just play in your bedroom.[/QUOTE"]

My budget is arround 250 dollars i play blues but i also love grunge and hard rock like nirvana and AC/DC and i want an amp that i can gig with. I have a semi acoustic Fender CD-60 CE all mahogany and im gonna buy my first electric guitar this summer (epiphone sheraton ii)
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TS - where are you located?


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I have never used a piece of modeling gear or software that wasn’t a huge letdown. Obviously tube amps aren’t perfect, but even the worst tube amps are still better than ****īng around with modelers.

I'm sorry you had bad experiences. You certainly are entitled to your opinion and generally I'm inclined to agree with most things you say but this comment here does not make sense to me. So you'd rather have the worst sounding tube amp out there over something like an Axe Fx or Line 6 Vetta? I've played a lot of amps now and honestly, my Vypyr Tube 60 is still one of my favorites.