#1
Hi people.

Just wondered if anyone has tried one of these fastloader Floyds and if so,what do you make of it?

Thanks.
#2
The actual Floyd ones - which I don't believe are produced anymore - were quite effective as far as I know, because they were designed in such a way with the special strings as to prevent unwanted movement of the ball-end. GFS and other equivalents, lacking such provision, I doubt have the same reliability.
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#4
They're a dumb idea.
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Do they even make the strings for those things anymore? I'll stick to the OFR.
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I don't think I know what you're talking about. Based on the replies here, I'm guessing it is/was some kind of Floyd style trem that you could use without cutting of the ball ends of the strings?

Assuming that's the case, yeah, pointless. Cutting the ball ends off is not that big of a hassle. It boggles my mind that some people are actually so damn lazy and/or stupid that they think that's so difficult/time consuming to do.
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It had balls on both ends of the strings, and it would lock down. There were no tuners on the headstock, just fine tuneers on the bridge.
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Do they even make the strings for those things anymore? I'll stick to the OFR.

They reintroduced the strings, but not the trem. I think that probably says all that need be said about demand...
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I thought the whole point of a Floyd Rose was to actually take the ball ends out of the equation altogether. That's part of the reason why they stay in tune.
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I thought the whole point of a Floyd Rose was to actually take the ball ends out of the equation altogether. That's part of the reason why they stay in tune.

Pretty much. No ball ends meant less slippage. I mean, if crazy whammy bar action is your thing, why would you choose a product that results in your guitar being out of tune more easily?
#12
Have some peoples responses been directed towards the Floyd Rose Speedloader?

I was hoping to hear from anyone that had used a "Floyd Rose type Fastloader" and if they had used one,what their impression of it was.

Thanks.
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Have some peoples responses been directed towards the Floyd Rose Speedloader?

I was hoping to hear from anyone that had used a "Floyd Rose type Fastloader" and if they had used one,what their impression of it was.

Thanks.

You're talking about the Guitar Fetish one, right? Same thing but the disadvantages of keeping the ball ends aren't minimised so well as on the Floyd, I wouldn't waste my paper on it.

Yes, it will probably work better than a Strat trem (assuming it's one of GFS' "hits", rather than their similar quantity of "misses"). No, it won't work as well as a clamping Floyd.

"Work", in this case, if it wasn't obvious, means "stay in tune".

By way of explanation:

A traditional Floyd's double locking system works because at one end it eliminates any slippage or catching past the nut and at the other end eliminates movement of the ball-end that would cause tuning issues on just about any older design. It does this because the string is "locked" at either end of the scale length.

Clearly some people find that an inconvenience, so the Speedloader has a setup of special strings with a ball-end that's easily put in place at each end and fits pretty much perfectly snugly into its holder at each end of the scale length, at least in theory. Thus it's optimised because all "play" - that is, unwanted movement of the string end is, as much as possible, removed. The GFS model is designed to take standard strings, thus its design is not perfectly optimised for string ball-ends, because they don't have their own standard size to work to. Therefore, there's still the potential for "play" with the GFS model. Not a whole lot, but enough that it won't be as reliable as the old fashioned Floyd design.
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#14
That's exactly where I've seen it advertised.
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The actual Floyd ones - which I don't believe are produced anymore - were quite effective as far as I know, because they were designed in such a way with the special strings as to prevent unwanted movement of the ball-end. GFS and other equivalents, lacking such provision, I doubt have the same reliability.

Pretty much this in a nutshell.

The FR Speedloaders weren't bad at all.

The single locking ones from Guitarfetish et al are garbage. A few years back someone built one and the knife edges quite literally crumpled under the string tension.
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