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#1
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/06/the-media-mens-emotions/


What do you guys think about this? I have always had an interest in masculinity and masculinity studies and I thought some of you might like this.


Post situations in which you feel more or less pressured to express your emotions in a certain way because of your gender.
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#3
I allow different emotions to be seen at different times, depending on the audience. There is a certain presence that I have to exude to different groups of people, so my emotional bandwidth adjusts accordingly.

addendum: The best men I know are comfortable with their emotions in the right environment. Most of them understand "there's a time and a place." I tend to hold women to the same emotional standard that I hold men too. The biggest difference I seen, and perhaps is my bias, is that women generally have significantly less self-control, and the audience to which they display emotions is often immaterial to them.
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#4
Didn't read comic cos was patronising and annoying

I act according to what mood I am in, not based on my gender or masculinity. If I'm sad I'll act sad, if I'm in a good mood I'll be outgoing and chatty.

I don't show vulnerability to people I don't know but that's got nothing to do with gender for me.
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#5
Real men don't cry.
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#6
oh if you also mean like for the good of society, yeah it's pretty fukked up but honestly hollywood is more or less bleach for your brain, its portrayal of masculinity is only one broken bolt in a giant mess of mistakes
#7
What's the point of this thread? We're all supposed to be some sort of victim these days huh? :vomit:
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#9
idk how to feel about this

i was raised to not cry and be the strong one. i hate crying and showing weakness so whenever im upset about something i either show nothing or i just get angry. at this point i dont even think it has anything to do with my gender its just the way i deal with things. i understand its bad to enforce these roles onto people but for some of us its too little too late. im not just suddenly going to wake up one day and say "hey i think im going to cry about shit and be all flimsy cause feminists say its ok now"
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#10
That website's articles

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Serious section of this post:
Yes, during high school I noticed myself doing this to fit in with the other guys/kids and whatnot. All the guys were supposed to like action movies and all the movies that had crying in them were for girls. And god forbid if you liked a sad song or something that showed you had any emotion other than >

So happy that I grew out of that though.
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#14
Frankly, I'm quite insulted that the article in the OP is insinuating I have feelings to begin with
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#15
Is there a discrepancy between how a man reacts emotionally vs a woman? Sure. But I'd rather not see myself as a helpless victim. I feel as though I have a sufficient outlet for my emotions through my friends (who happen to be men) so I've never felt 'oppressed' regarding this issue. I've had to withhold emotions, in fact I do it all the time. But for reasons that have nothing to do with my gender.
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#16
Men and Women are different. Period. It's the goal of feminism to blur those lines and make men into women and vice versa.

Men should be able to control their emotions, but nowdays we are told to let 'em out...cry...express...baloney. Suck it up. In this day of feminized men, you can see why women are so miserable, even though they don't realize it.

When men aren't men, the women have to attempt to fill that role...with devastating effects.

Women are beautiful and amazing beings in their own right. They have their own strengths. While men have theirs.
#20
why is it always on the men to convert to the female way of doing things, why can't women just bottle up their emotions as well?
#21
I hit the part where it was all "Men in film resolve conflict through physical means". I don't think the implication that action is a masculine kind of conflict is true. It just has to do with a) the medium, which works best through action and b) the industry's (waning) reluctance and ambivalence about good female leads. Other than that, not bad for a comic.


As for situations where I feel uncomfortable expressing emotions, probably most of them. That has very little to do with the gender binary and has a lot more to do with my parents.
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why is it always on the men to convert to the female way of doing things, why can't women just bottle up their emotions as well?

I find myself having to bottle emotions often
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#23
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you don't find the people who are offended by this pretty amusing? it is self-fulfilling given the subject matter
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#24
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I find myself having to bottle emotions often

i was just kidding
#26
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I knew you were but only because I know you but I feel the urge more and more to help the high schoolers and those comparable
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#27
I've seen plenty of men cry and express their emotions over loss, it's pretty much expected, and hasn't diminished my opinion of their 'manliness' at all. I've also seen plenty of women taking leadership before men.

The article is more about discussing how genders are portrayed in media, which I guess is kind of a problem currently

Just a little rambling about leadership:
As a man I can say that I feel positively when I am in a position of leadership.

Prolly a really silly example is driving. If I'm giving my friend a lift, I'm leading, responsible, and the feeling of responsibility makes me feel positive, in power, superior, whatever. similarly if i was getting a lift, I'd feel dependent on my friend, and then I am a follower.

I guess that'd also extend to competency, if my friend was a shitty driver, getting lost etc. and I had to give him directions, I would feel more in control. and the same would be true, if I was driving, but had to get directions, I might feel shitty about myself.

don't know if this is what u were talking about but
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I basically agree but the comic's wrong. Women are allowed way more to express their anger than men. In my experience men are only allowed to be happy, neutral or silent.

Please explain to me why you think this is the case.

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#30
Men's anger is perceived as more threatening. Which it usually is tbf. It's like that Donald Glover joke, every guy's got a crazy ex-girlfriend story but a lot fewer girls have a crazy ex-boyfriend story. Because if you've got a crazy ex-boyfriend you're gonna die.
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#31
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Didn't read comic cos was patronising and annoying

if you never read the comic, how do you know it's patronising and annoying?


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Post situations in which you feel more or less pressured to express your emotions in a certain way because of your gender.
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#32
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Men's anger is perceived as more threatening. Which it usually is tbf. It's like that Donald Glover joke, every guy's got a crazy ex-girlfriend story but a lot fewer girls have a crazy ex-boyfriend story. Because if you've got a crazy ex-boyfriend you're gonna die.


Or they never left the boyfriend.
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#33
Makes a solid point, but I'm disturbed that there's only 1 disabled transgender person in it.
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#34
Some people are uncomfortable with their emotions and resort to name calling to justify it. This is normal human behavior.
#35
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Please explain to me why you think this is the case.


Men are expected to control their emotions, women not so much, so they don't learn and/or are taught it's more acceptable. I am from a particularly civilised part of the world though where anger is considered rather uncouth. So my experience may not be universal. Maybe you classless swines have a dif way of doing things. If a woman expresses anger they do still get the 'crazy' label but if a man does they get it even more.
#36
Also girls straight up cry to get attention/get what they want.

If a guy tried this it'd be weird.
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#37
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Also girls straight up cry to get attention/get what they want.

If a guy tried this it'd be weird.


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#38
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See, weird.
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#39
tbh I think a lot of it is due to the American style. Obviously could resemble other parts of the world, but I'm just thinking in my family. I never saw my dad cry, or yell, or anything really. So I kind of grew up with the idea that men don't have emotions (or at least don't express them, ever). I've seen parents of other families where the parents express emotion, and the children learn from that and see it's ok.

was gonna say stuff about culture and stuff but yeah.


Also, basically every single male has a harder time than virtually every female. Although I would like everyone to be able to express their emotions in a proper way, but there is a biological difference. Gotta work to get over that.
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