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Shamelessly inspired by vintage x metal's sig. Do you agree with this?

I was researching parts of the brain not too long ago, and which ones are 'over-active' or 'under-active' in certain types of people with things, and wondered something similar; along the lines of if everyone had perfectly balanced parts in their brain/'gut'-brains, would we still act the same/ have a 'soul' eg AI or something?

Discuss. Or shitpost (eg. "Have you like, ever seen the reflection of your reflection in your pupils in the mirror, brooo, woah man")
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Heh, shitpost. I'm gonna go against my norm and try to assert a genuine statement on the topic, though brief it will be.

I know next to nothing about neurology and such but I'm of the opinion that a "perfectly balanced" anything is a literal impossibility and that everything, from our own minds to the expanse of the universe shifts unpredictably. Personal, societal, and cosmological behaviors are where they belong now, and will be where they belong tomorrow, and the manner in which we as individuals perceive each other and the world around us and just how this impacts us on an emotional level will be a constant within our species as this is our purpose as living beings - to feel and interpret what the cold essentials of existence cannot.

Or something like that, it's amazing what one tall draft beer can do on an empty stomach.
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Heh, shitpost. I'm gonna go against my norm and try to assert a genuine statement on the topic, though brief it will be.

I know next to nothing about neurology and such but I'm of the opinion that a "perfectly balanced" anything is a literal impossibility and that everything, from our own minds to the expanse of the universe shifts unpredictably. Personal, societal, and cosmological behaviors are where they belong now, and will be where they belong tomorrow, and the manner in which we as individuals perceive each other and the world around us and just how this impacts us on an emotional level will be a constant within our species as this is our purpose as living beings - to feel and interpret what the cold essentials of existence cannot.

Or something like that, it's amazing what one tall draft beer can do on an empty stomach.


But if we meant 'perfectly balanced' as present, close-to-similar relational experiences/etc, and did some 'neurological baseline-ing (I also dont study neuroscience outside of hobby rofl) zen-y plasticity training' work to get everyone on the 'same page', would everything be a constant just at that moment, you think? Like everyone following the same language-game, but 'personality'-game or something instead
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Shamelessly inspired by vintage x metal's sig. Do you agree with this?

I was researching parts of the brain not too long ago, and which ones are 'over-active' or 'under-active' in certain types of people with things, and wondered something similar; along the lines of if everyone had perfectly balanced parts in their brain/'gut'-brains, would we still act the same/ have a 'soul' eg AI or something?

Discuss. Or shitpost (eg. "Have you like, ever seen the reflection of your reflection in your pupils in the mirror, brooo, woah man")

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Law off the chronic, lardy.

What are you even trying to say?
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But if we meant 'perfectly balanced' as present, close-to-similar relational experiences/etc, and did some 'neurological baseline-ing (I also dont study neuroscience outside of hobby rofl) zen-y plasticity training' work to get everyone on the 'same page', would everything be a constant just at that moment, you think? Like everyone following the same language-game, but 'personality'-game or something instead


Like in that movie Equilibrium? lol

I dunno, couldn't even guess on that. I hadn't considered.
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This thread makes me wanna take drugs again.

No but what would be a reliable way of testing this, no matter how far-fetched? Like, take two identical twins, raise them separate from each other but in the exact same conditions, being cared for by the exact same individuals, taught the exact same things, and possibly even applied identical, artificially induced, emotional trauma to them at key moments in their development?

Then you gave both of them a knife, put them in a locked room together, and told them that only one person would be leaving the room alive. Now that would be a show for the ages.
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This thread makes me wanna take drugs again.

No but what would be a reliable way of testing this, no matter how far-fetched? Like, take two identical twins, raise them separate from each other but in the exact same conditions, being cared for by the exact same individuals, taught the exact same things, and possibly even applied identical, artificially induced, emotional trauma to them at key moments in their development?

Then you gave both of them a knife, put them in a locked room together, and told them that only one person would be leaving the room alive. Now that would be a show for the ages.

I imagined twins - conjoined at the head - with a cheap paper-cardboard partition physically separating the view of one twin from another.

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I imagined twins - conjoined at the head - with a cheap paper-cardboard partition physically separating the view of one twin from another.

Sounds like the basis for a cheap dark comedy.
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No but what would be a reliable way of testing this, no matter how far-fetched? Like, take two identical twins, raise them separate from each other but in the exact same conditions, being cared for by the exact same individuals, taught the exact same things, and possibly even applied identical, artificially induced, emotional trauma to them at key moments in their development?

Then you gave both of them a knife, put them in a locked room together, and told them that only one person would be leaving the room alive. Now that would be a show for the ages.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/12/magazine/the-mixed-up-brothers-of-bogota.html?_r=0
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Sounds like the basis for a cheap dark comedy.

Oh sure.


I can see it now. 'Twin A' would be taught his entire life that he's mentally ill and the voice he hears his entire life (his twin sibling's attempts at desperate communication beyond the cardboard partition) is nothing more than a symptom of his mental psychosis. He will continuously believe the external pressures of a life-long depraved joke of being raised as the Village Idiot. 'Twin B' is nothing more than a severely depressed sociopath, fully aware of the pettiness of the entire partition schematic, yet continuously feeding off of the absurdity it creates in his life.
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No but what would be a reliable way of testing this, no matter how far-fetched? Like, take two identical twins, raise them separate from each other but in the exact same conditions, being cared for by the exact same individuals, taught the exact same things, and possibly even applied identical, artificially induced, emotional trauma to them at key moments in their development.

Here's a well known thing that is somewhat relevant.
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I've read it a few more times and I think what you're trying to say is that you're wondering whether we'd still have the same personality if every part of the brain was as active as another. Is this your question?
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Oh sure.


I can see it now. 'Twin A' would be taught his entire life that he's mentally ill and the voice he hears his entire life (his twin sibling's attempts at desperate communication beyond the cardboard partition) is nothing more than a symptom of his mental psychosis. He will continuously believe the external pressures of a life-long depraved joke of being raised as the Village Idiot. 'Twin B' is nothing more than a severely depressed sociopath, fully aware of the pettiness of the entire partition schematic, yet continuously feeding off of the absurdity it creates in his life.

We need a script for this.

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I've read it a few more times and I think what you're trying to say is that you're wondering whether we'd still have the same personality if every part of the brain was as active as another. Is this your question?


yeah


My belief is they would still be different, even if genetic code was the same a la identical twins. There'd still be slight differences in personality even if nature:nurture was =, thus, I have concluded past Descartes that there is indeed a soul, and a God. QED atheists
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yeah


My belief is they would still be different, even if genetic code was the same a la identical twins. There'd still be slight differences in personality even if nature:nurture was =, thus, I have concluded past Descartes that there is indeed a soul, and a God. QED atheists

From what I can gather from what I've learnt as an aspiring practitioner of neurology/neuroscience, how active parts of your brain are is dictated by your experience.

Neurons are the base part of your nervous systems- nerve cells. They send chemical and electrical messages to one another (and to other cells) via synapses- gaps between those cells. The strength of these connections depends on how often you repeat a behaviour- whether you're trying to commit something to memory, receiving a stimulus, practice actions, etc.

The activity excites these neurons through electrical messages. The less you excite the neurons, the weaker the connection becomes- which is why you find it difficult to remember things that haven't crossed your mind in a while or to play guitar after some time away from using it.

The more you use it, the more active that part of the brain is. The temporal lobe, for example, has been found to facilitate the sense of hearing- such as some tasks involved in hearing music or language. Musicians would have more activity in their temporal lobe. So would people who speak multiple languages.


TL;DR - Your experiences have a direct effect on what parts of your brain are more active. It would be completely reasonable to believe that if one's brain was changed such that all parts are equally active, his or her personality would change since this would mean that your experiences would be different than what they were before this rearrangement.
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This thread makes me wanna take drugs again.

No but what would be a reliable way of testing this, no matter how far-fetched? Like, take two identical twins, raise them separate from each other but in the exact same conditions, being cared for by the exact same individuals, taught the exact same things, and possibly even applied identical, artificially induced, emotional trauma to them at key moments in their development?

Then you gave both of them a knife, put them in a locked room together, and told them that only one person would be leaving the room alive. Now that would be a show for the ages.


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From what I can gather from what I've learnt as an aspiring practitioner of neurology/neuroscience, how active parts of your brain are is dictated by your experience.

Neurons are the base part of your nervous systems- nerve cells. They send chemical and electrical messages to one another (and to other cells) via synapses- gaps between those cells. The strength of these connections depends on how often you repeat a behaviour- whether you're trying to commit something to memory, receiving a stimulus, practice actions, etc.

The activity excites these neurons through electrical messages. The less you excite the neurons, the weaker the connection becomes- which is why you find it difficult to remember things that haven't crossed your mind in a while or to play guitar after some time away from using it.

The more you use it, the more active that part of the brain is. The temporal lobe, for example, has been found to facilitate the sense of hearing- such as some tasks involved in hearing music or language. Musicians would have more activity in their temporal lobe. So would people who speak multiple languages.


TL;DR - Your experiences have a direct effect on what parts of your brain are more active. It would be completely reasonable to believe that if one's brain was changed such that all parts are equally active, his or her personality would change since this would mean that your experiences would be different than what they were before this rearrangement.


aka: neuroplasticity
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Shamelessly inspired by vintage x metal's sig. Do you agree with this?

I was researching parts of the brain not too long ago, and which ones are 'over-active' or 'under-active' in certain types of people with things, and wondered something similar; along the lines of if everyone had perfectly balanced parts in their brain/'gut'-brains, would we still act the same/ have a 'soul' eg AI or something?

Discuss. Or shitpost (eg. "Have you like, ever seen the reflection of your reflection in your pupils in the mirror, brooo, woah man")


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