#1
Hiya all,

I've been wanting to get a proper audio interface for my PC for a while, so I can record some bass covers (or just practise some riffs). However, I haven't found anything under £50, and right now £20 is pretty much my top budget. As a 15 y/o kid, there's not much other than selling parts I salvage from dead family computers to earn some cash...and I've run out of computers.

I had a quick skim through the "newbie recording" sticky, and I found the unnamed Behringer USB Link that had been suggested. However, the reviews on this thing are pretty awful. I no nothing of this stuff, but I assume recording the bass (a generally more powerful instrument than the guitar) is more of a strain on the audio interface? I also play a lot of slap, which I also guess needs slightly better hardware to sound good? As I said, I know nothing - might be completely wrong. So, would this be suitable?

New Promotions Guitar to USB Interface Link Audio Cable PC/MAC Recording Adapter https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DN0K1NA/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_N9vTvbK11PQM8

If not, does anyone have any suggestions below a maximum of £25? Cheers.

Woody
#3
I hadn't considered used interfaces. They don't lose quality over time, after all. I'll have a quick look now, and get back to you.

Woody
#5
Last edited by diabolical at Jul 26, 2015,
#6
Another option is using a smartphone as your simple DAW. Depending on the phone you have a decent mic can be found for about $20 and you are on your way. I use the smartphone a lot for idea sketches and developing vocal harmonies to share with band mates. Dirt cheap, good sound quality, and super convenient to use because it is always in your pocket.
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#7
Actually, sorry, my budget is more like £20 than £60. I'm not quite sure how you read my OP as £60 :P

I've read a few reviews on the M-Audio MobilePre USB and apparently it's a great interface for beginners. Would you guys agree? As for using my phone - it's a pretty crappy Lumia 520, and I don't think it even has an audio recorder.

Woody
Last edited by Bassmania127 at Jul 27, 2015,
#9
Yes I've found one. I have three operating systems I can use: Windows 7 HP 64-bit, Ubuntu 14.04 and Mac OS X 10.10.4 Yosemite.

Woody
#10
Quote by Bassmania127
As for using my phone - it's a pretty crappy Lumia 520, and I don't think it even has an audio recorder.

Woody


There is an app for that....

http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/store/app/free-recorder/d79e9518-3104-410c-b469-f68735e0c88c

Windows Mobile is universally terrible at handling audio though. Sweep floors, wash cars, paint houses so you have more cash. You will need a decent interface and a mic to do any significant recording. A cast-off iPod touch might be the cheapest way to get good multitrack results.
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"Your sound is in your hands as much as anything. It's the way you pick, and the way you hold the guitar, more than it is the amp or the guitar you use." -- Stevie Ray Vaughan

"Anybody can play. The note is only 20 percent. The attitude of the motherfucker who plays it is 80 percent." -- Miles Davis

Guthrie on tone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmohdG9lLqY
#11
Another alternative would be a small multitrack recorder used, like maybe Boss Micro Br:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=boss+micro+br&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1
You can import rehearsal files and export multitrack to PC. Might be handier and provide more options than cheapo interface.

How do you currently practice your bass? I didn't think of that but you might be able to connect directly into the line in. It won't be optimal but might prove a quick solution.

Or maybe USB mixer, Behringer seems to be around 25 pounds used so that's also not a bad deal:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=behringer+usb+mixer&rt=nc&LH_Auction=1
#12
I currently practice using my amp, with headphones running through a 1/4 to 1/8 adapter. The guy with the M-Audio MobilePre wanted £35 for it, I told him **** no.

I went ahead and ordered a Behringer Guitar Link knockoff, but not sure how well that will deal with a bass. If it's not particularly good, it was only £4 anyway.

Woody
Last edited by Bassmania127 at Jul 27, 2015,
#13
Quote by Bassmania127


I went ahead and ordered a Behringer Guitar Link knockoff, but not sure how well that will deal with a bass. If it's not particularly good, it was only £4 anyway.

Woody





I think it'd be okay, you can get asio4all drivers and run it that way into your DAW, either from lineout on the bass amp or direct from the bass.
#14
Cheers. I'll get back to you when it's delivered in a few days time. On another subject, is Audacity a decent DAW? I'm only really looking to record the clean bass, not going to be putting many wacky effects on.

Woody
#16
I'd highly recommend Reaper over Audacity. While Audacity works fine for simple recording, it sucks for mixing and arrangement. It also doesn't support VSTs out the box and doesn't play nice with many of them. In short, while it's fine to start on, you WILL outgrow it.
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#17
Ugh, I've been trying to get the damn thing to work for 2 hours now.

I've tried installing the drivers off the CD, and official Behringer ones from their website. I've tried multiple different guitar leads. I've tried using Audacity, Reaper, and Guitar Rig 2 (that came with the interface). Nothing works.

On Audacity, I can select the "Line in" as the Behringer USB WDM AUDIO 2.8.40, but if I try to record I get "Error opening sound device. Please check the recording device settings and the project sample rate." After going though all the necessary steps on the Audacity website to fix this, it started recording...but it wouldn't listen to the guitar. You could hear the noise interference, but you couldn't hear the guitar. When I tried restarting Audacity I got the goddamn message again.

On Reaper, I set it up correctly, armed the track, hit record and nothing. No sound at all.

I couldn't even work out how the use the Guitar Rig 2 thing.

I'm so annoyed. Can anyone help me? I'm running Windows 7 64-bit.

Woody
#18
Try ASIO4all drivers, I think that is what people recommend:
http://asio4all.com/

I think the issue might be that you're using the WDM drivers.

Maybe these will help:
https://ddcampayo.wordpress.com/2013/05/12/setting-up-the-behringer-guitar-link-ucg102-on-windows-7/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPYCQDJ4NW0
Last edited by diabolical at Jul 30, 2015,
#19
I'm pretty sure the Behringer drivers I tried were ASIO, and it recognises my device under ASIO when setting it up in Reaper.

I've got it working on my MacBook Pro, but unfortunately all of my music (that I was going to cover) is on my PC.

Woody
#20
Record with your Mac and transfer the wav files from your PC. It's just always easier working with music on a Mac.
"Your sound is in your hands as much as anything. It's the way you pick, and the way you hold the guitar, more than it is the amp or the guitar you use." -- Stevie Ray Vaughan

"Anybody can play. The note is only 20 percent. The attitude of the motherfucker who plays it is 80 percent." -- Miles Davis

Guthrie on tone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmohdG9lLqY
#21
Quote by Bassmania127
I'm pretty sure the Behringer drivers I tried were ASIO, and it recognises my device under ASIO when setting it up in Reaper.

I've got it working on my MacBook Pro, but unfortunately all of my music (that I was going to cover) is on my PC.

Woody


Maybe those links will help.
#22
Will MP3 work? (Because I'm a cheeky bar steward who gets all his music illegally)

Woody
Last edited by Bassmania127 at Jul 30, 2015,
#23
You should be able to import or convert to wav or aif to use in OS X. Either way...
Show us some screen captures from Windows setup / Audacity, not sure why it is not working, if you see it as ASIO in Audacity you should be fine.
It's simple to use, I'd be happy to help you over Teamviewer or Skype (you can share screen if you want - PM me).
#24
Hi, sorry for not responding recently. It's been working great on my Mac, haven't bothered to get it working on my PC for now - I can easily get music off the interwebz. I'm very happy with the sound quality, was expecting something so cheap to give quite a bit of noise - nothing so far!

I've done a cover and uploaded it to YouTube, and nothing is going wrong. Would you recommend using Garageband? It came with my Mac and I'm pretty familiar with it because I use it at school sometimes. I know it's not the most feature laden of DAWs but it seems to do the job for me?

Woody