Poll: Is it ever possible to not be prejudiced?
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Yes
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#1
Is it ever possible to not be prejudiced?

To not make any judgements on someone, going further than their ethnicity, but not making a judgement based on what their hair is like, what clothes or shoes they wear, their weight and how they present themselves?

Is this possible, or is there always going to be some sort of element of prejudice towards people, based upon their surface qualities, before you get to know them well?

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#5
Nah people are always prejudiced. I like to think of avoiding prejudice in the same way that zen buddhist texts talk about "zen":

You will always slip into prejudice. To avoid prejudice is not a static state but a constant process. You must always be in dialogue with yourself to recognize it - often it only shows itself in hindsight.
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#6
People who claim to be unprejudiced are often violently prejudiced against people who are openly prejudiced.
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#7
No. It's in human nature to be prejudiced.
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#8
if you keep saying prejudiced over and over again it eventually loses it's meaning therefore eliminating prejudice
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Nah people are always prejudiced. I like to think of avoiding prejudice in the same way that zen buddhist texts talk about "zen":

You will always slip into prejudice. To avoid prejudice is not a static state but a constant process. You must always be in dialogue with yourself to recognize it - often it only shows itself in hindsight.


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#10
^ thanks Arby!


we should find a really hot smart nice hetero couple and make them procreate and name their baby Prejudice so then we can all say nice things to Prejudice
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#11
I personally think everyone has prejudice.

However what's important is that you do not act on your prejudice.

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#12
Prejudice doesn't have to be bad. Like sometimes you can tell that somebody is a*somebody* just by looking at them. The way they dress and act. And being a *somebody* is way better a *nobody* most of the time. Assuming good things about people.
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#13
^ yes there is plenty of positive prejudice

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I personally think everyone has prejudice.

However what's important is that you do not act on your prejudice.


well yeah but first you have to recognize your prejudice to not act on it


it's not often that people say "Hmm I can be kind of racist so I am not going to do ____"

it's usually more like "oh shit that thing I said may have come off racist now that I think about it/someone has told me, I should be more cognizant in the future and/or maybe apologize for before"
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#15
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#16
Everyone is prejudiced.
Hell, even that statement makes me prejudiced against everyone by saying they are prejudiced. What a world.
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#17
I can't be prejudiced because tumblr said my obscure personality trait that I let define me has made me immune to being so.

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Nah people are always prejudiced. I like to think of avoiding prejudice in the same way that zen buddhist texts talk about "zen":

You will always slip into prejudice. To avoid prejudice is not a static state but a constant process. You must always be in dialogue with yourself to recognize it - often it only shows itself in hindsight.

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Some prejudice is good though, for example I would never let somebody super into anime babysit my kids.
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Some prejudice is good though, for example I would never let somebody super into anime babysit my kids.

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I don't think prejudice is always a bad thing. I just think it's good to be aware of so that you have a gauge of when it is happening and why. Sort of like how conflict is not always bad and is often necessary.
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Some prejudice is good though, for example I would never let somebody super into anime babysit my kids.


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#21
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Nah people are always prejudiced. I like to think of avoiding prejudice in the same way that zen buddhist texts talk about "zen":

You will always slip into prejudice. To avoid prejudice is not a static state but a constant process. You must always be in dialogue with yourself to recognize it - often it only shows itself in hindsight.

#23
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That's all I have to say about that.

Have you tried Pride And Prejudice And Zombies?

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#24
Uncomfortable premise for an argument. Basically turns into "aren't we always gonna be prejudiced so let's not do anything about racism/sexism".


Be willing to earnestly self-examine and understand how your prejudices work.
#25
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Uncomfortable premise for an argument. Basically turns into "aren't we always gonna be prejudiced so let's not do anything about racism/sexism".


Be willing to earnestly self-examine and understand how your prejudices work.


It's about acknowledging your prejudices

and learning to look beyond them

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Uncomfortable premise for an argument. Basically turns into "aren't we always gonna be prejudiced so let's not do anything about racism/sexism".


Be willing to earnestly self-examine and understand how your prejudices work.

This is what pretty much everyone in the thread is saying.
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#27
ali has to go straight to "everyone else is a terrible person" before actually reading what people are saying though

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#28
To be fair, I am a terrible person.
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ali has to go straight to "everyone else is a terrible person" before actually reading what people are saying though

I've had three discussions a bunch of times


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#33
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Uncomfortable premise for an argument. Basically turns into "aren't we always gonna be prejudiced so let's not do anything about racism/sexism".


Be willing to earnestly self-examine and understand how your prejudices work.


yeah.

I think everyone's worldview is influenced by prejudice 'cause we live in a highly discriminatory world and all that. 'everyone is a little racist/sexist' (as in the actual bad intent kind not ignorant kind) seems like a bad attempt at justifying their own prejudices. the human nature argument in general is a just a bad attempt at prolonging stupid shit (usually with some 'people=shit' undertones lol).

judging someone 'cause they have a tattoo and things like that fall into this category too. nobody is biologically destined to think this way, it's thousands of years of complex social conditioning. shrugging it off as 'human nature' isn't going to change anything (of course the people who say stuff like that will look for any reason to justify their prejudice).
#34
I'm prejudiced against arsenal fans.
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#35
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Newborn babies don't know shit and therefore cannot be prejudiced, so in the broadest possible sense, it is technically possible to not be prejudiced.

But they're also pretty much unaware of the world around them, and don't understand most of what they are aware of.
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That's all I have to say about that.

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#38
Is there any point where you are not prejudiced at all, even after interacting with someone?
Every time you interact with someone else, you get to know more things about them, and you get to realize stuff about them too. But you can't know them 100%, nor know all their secrets, passions, thoughts, feelings, etc. There are things about them that you can't possibly know or infer, and yet you still judge them accordingly to what you perceive of them at the time (ej: people that are nice towards you who end up being terrible human beings, etc).

You can't be unprejudiced, basically by definition. However, the point is to not be an idiot, asshole, or humanity's shitstain regarding it.
#39
Here's how I'd put it simply: some people aren't aware of their prejudice, and should be — these are the vast majority of people who can't understand why we need to talk about prejudice in modern society, because they don't see it as real or they'll argue that it's an outlier; some people are aware of their prejudice, and they ignore or justify it — these are the "I'm not racist, but black people are..." and the "Aren't we all prejudiced anyway?" varieties; finally some people are aware of their prejudices, and they earnestly look at them and try to understand where they all came from. Be of the last variety, because it makes you less blind, more fair, more empathetic, and paradoxically more and less self-interested. All are great qualities to boast about at house parties.
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#40
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Is there any point where you are not prejudiced at all, even after interacting with someone?
Every time you interact with someone else, you get to know more things about them, and you get to realize stuff about them too. But you can't know them 100%, nor know all their secrets, passions, thoughts, feelings, etc. There are things about them that you can't possibly know or infer, and yet you still judge them accordingly to what you perceive of them at the time (ej: people that are nice towards you who end up being terrible human beings, etc).

You can't be unprejudiced, basically by definition. However, the point is to not be an idiot, asshole, or humanity's shitstain regarding it.

It's difficult to be prejudiced if you've just had sex.
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