#1
Im in the process of looking for a guitar amp that can produce good sound, can be portable and be transported around in a car ( i drive a Toyota corolla) but also if i want to jam with a few friends.

The music is like is traditional 80’s heavy metal and thrash metal. I also like death metal and black metal.

I have spent some time researching some amps and reading their reviews and have nailed it down to these two:
- Peavy Vyper 3
- Marshall DSL40C

Im more leaning towards the Marshall as the reviews about the Peavy have said that it is very difficult to control and play around with the settings. I am almost a noob when it comes to guitar amp settings.

Also years ago i had a Peavy 6505 and sold it because it was too loud and big for me lifestyle. I remember that the i didn’t like the sound of Peavy amps because it sounded too ‘nu school’ if that makes sense. So i am guessing the Vyper would also have this issue as well.

Any suggestions on what i need to look for when decided what amp to buy or any other good amps you can recommend me.
#2
Buy the Marshall DSL40C and upgrade the speaker.
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Buy the Marshall DSL40C and upgrade the speaker.


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^+1

the WGS veteran 30 is a great replacement and it is only $70
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#5
I tried a 15w DSL with a PRS Mira the other day, it sounded good, actually that Marshall kind of surprised me since I read a lot of bad things about their sound.

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Thanks for the responses everyone.

So it looks like I will be getting the Marshall DSL40C then.

I don't know how to change the speakers on these things (noob) and I don't know anyone that could help me. If I just buy the amp and keep the speakers that come with it will it be sufficient for the type of sound I want?
#8
For Hard Rock and Heavy Metal I recommend Celestion V30s or alikes, Weber Grey Dog is another good recommendation. Just make sure the impedance (ohms) matches. Just swap it and make sure it is properly connected, this is VERY important to avoid damage to your amp, like blowing a transformer.

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Throwing a new speaker in isn't hard, typically 4 screws and two wire clips, red is normally your positive side of the speaker (it's marked) and black is negative. You may not think it needs it after playing it, but I personally have found that a speaker swap can take an okay sounding amp and make it a fire breather. Definitely give it a play first, you may be fine with the speaker.
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Throwing a new speaker in isn't hard, typically 4 screws and two wire clips, red is normally your positive side of the speaker (it's marked) and black is negative. You may not think it needs it after playing it, but I personally have found that a speaker swap can take an okay sounding amp and make it a fire breather. Definitely give it a play first, you may be fine with the speaker.


True Story. A friend has a Laney LC50 combo and I kind of liked its sound. We connected it to a Orange cab I used to have and, oh boy! That thing can reaaaally scream. We were all very impressed.

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Tech shouldn't charge you much for changing the speaker, maybe even help you Gert something that'll work better. Not sure what they have in them now but a 70 watt Celestion should suffice, the V30 will be less than amp power caspascity so unless you're getting two in external cab I'd look at other speakers.
#12
^ V30 is fine, it's 60 watts.

Someone really needs to have a word with whoever named the Vintage 30. It doesn't sound vintage, and it's not 30 watts. Causes no end of confusion.
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^ V30 is fine, it's 60 watts.

Someone really needs to have a word with whoever named the Vintage 30. It doesn't sound vintage, and it's not 30 watts. Causes no end of confusion.


My bad, I thought you meant the 30 watt Celestions (who knows what they call them now ), I'm a bit behind on marketing gimmicks

These should work fine.
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^ V30 is fine, it's 60 watts.

Someone really needs to have a word with whoever named the Vintage 30. It doesn't sound vintage, and it's not 30 watts. Causes no end of confusion.

It was originally supposed to be a ceramic version of the Alnico Blue from what I have researched.

But saying that the G12T75 was originally supposed to be a 75 watt g12m25
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^ Yeah that's what I heard too (about the v30 and blue).

Then when it sounded nothing like it I think they tried to claim it stood for "30cm". Not buying that, all their other speakers use inches in the model name (G12). Including the V30.



And yeah lol at the G12t75.

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My bad, I thought you meant the 30 watt Celestions (who knows what they call them now ), I'm a bit behind on marketing gimmicks

These should work fine.


No worries. The G12H30 is 30 watts. They have a higher wattage version of it out now, though (I haven't tried it).
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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