#1
hey guys,

lately I've come to realize that I need to find more portable solutions to get a good sound, my main amp is a tube Crate V18 that is nice but I've been in (many situations) where I had a quick performance/open jam and I couldn't heave my amp cause I got no car and so ended up with analog pedals into a solid state, and yesterday I even had to plug into a mixer (ughhhhhh!) cause no one would let me use theirs -_-

is there anything available that I can plug into an amp/mixer/whatever and get a good sound that is the closest thing to a good amp and doesn't sound too artificial? I play classic/Hard rock and a bit of metal for kicks

my current gear:
Ibanez RG with PAF pros
Crate V18
Morley power wah
Metal muff (sometimes)
Dunlop super comp (sometimes)
#2
You should be able to find a used Line 6 POD HD Desktop (bean) pretty cheap.
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#4
Yeah go for a POD.
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#5
Pod HD -- the "bean" model will fit into the accessory pocket of some gig bags, and the FBV Express foot pedal will handle about 90% of anything you want to do (the FBV Shortboard II will handle the rest).




Guitar cable to the "bean" in the backline.
two cables from the bean to the mixer.
Power brick into the wall.

One ethernet cable from the pedalboard back to the Pod HD in the backline. (no other cables, no power brick; it gets all of its power from the HD via the ethernet cable).
#7
i have experience with the mesa model ^ i don't own one, but the times i have demo'd one i really liked it.
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#8
I almost forgot about the AMT Legend series preamps, really nice and <$150 new. They have Mesa, Soldano,VHT,Krank,Orange,Soldano,Marshall,Engl and some more
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#10
thanks everyone the POD seems popular, but are all these pluggable directly into a mixer/PA with good results?
#11
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thanks everyone the POD seems popular, but are all these pluggable directly into a mixer/PA with good results?


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#12
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thanks everyone the POD seems popular, but are all these pluggable directly into a mixer/PA with good results?


Yup. I'd rather get anything else listen on here but the POD, but if you want a cheap standalone solution I guess it could do in a bind, I personally hate its tone but you get all the other fx into it that the V Twin, etc. don't have as they are pure preamps with speaker emulation.
#13
hey guys, I did some research and I was wondering also about the Xotic BB preamp and the Blackstar HT dual pedals, would they work in the same context? and generally speaking, is a preamp pedal what I need?
Last edited by Alijonroth at Sep 9, 2015,
#14
The BB not so sure, looks like a boost/overdrive pedal to me so I probably wouldn't use it as stand alone.

The HT-Dual is great, it has speaker emulation that can connect direct.

What you need is a preamp pedal but in reality the definition is confusing. There are quite a few pedals that will act as a preamp. I think for the most part you need a several gain stage options and a speaker emulation which is the kicker in your case as you're going into the board. So that kinda limits the options.

Did you look at the Sansamp/Tech21 range?
#15
Yes, a preamp pedal is the trick to get good guitar tone from any mixer or powered speaker setup and it is super-portable. Finding the one that best suits your style is harder so you will need to test several. My personal experience is limited but most hi gain players like the Pod after they have tweaked it to taste. I am more old school and prefer vintage tone which can be found reliably in the Vox Tonelab LE. I have not used their latest versions.
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#16
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The BB not so sure, looks like a boost/overdrive pedal to me so I probably wouldn't use it as stand alone.

The HT-Dual is great, it has speaker emulation that can connect direct.

What you need is a preamp pedal but in reality the definition is confusing. There are quite a few pedals that will act as a preamp. I think for the most part you need a several gain stage options and a speaker emulation which is the kicker in your case as you're going into the board. So that kinda limits the options.

Did you look at the Sansamp/Tech21 range?


I checked the Sansamp but I wasn't sure about it, I checked the AMT legend series too but I wouldnt know which one to get tbh xD I want something that's versatile and has a tweakable tone, but not the Pod, it looks a but too much for me, way too many buttons. I'm looking at stuff in the 150$ range or a little bit above that, what do you recommend out of the above?
#17
Joyo cloned some of the Tech21 Character pedals if you want to go that route first to see if they work for you.

http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?t=16105
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#18
I recently got a Sansamp GT2, I use it as a distortion pedal but tried with just a pa and it sounds pretty fierce. It models general Fender, Marshall and Mesa tones. Besides the practicality its a pretty sweet pedal, I dig it.
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#19
Look up the TRI-AC and Double Drive 3X by Sansamp/Tech21.
Maybe even get them used. They are incredibly versatile. I wouldn't used them for a thrash or death metal project but they cover all the ground up to those genres.

Digitech DF-7 might be another option as it has several clones built into it and the speaker emulation is decent. No way close in quality to the Sansamp/Tech21 stuff but on a budget it is really not bad. You have one sound on that though, so it is either on or off. With the TRI-AC or 3X you can program 3 sounds into the pedal even on the fly if you want, so in essence you can have your solo boost right in there.
Last edited by diabolical at Sep 9, 2015,