#1
Any ideas how John Butler created the guitar tone on
Wings are Wide
here's a youtube link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGQRh7Nso_4

Distorted guitar kicks in at about 3.37 and then goes off at 3.50

I used to just enjoy this song as a nice kinda background song – until I actually listened to it carefully.

Its now one of my top 10 songs ever – amazing theme and beautiful crafted – hence my investigation of the details of his tone set up.

Anyway – any ideas
My guess is lots of reverb,
and ? Tremolo slow or phaser ? Acoustic guitar through this lot.

It is such a dirty sound that you'd be crazy to use it ever, and yet it fits the passion of this song superbly.

Any ideas please post.

Cheers
#2
I can think of a few effects that would get you that pulse: phaser is one option, but I think a tremolo, rotary, wah or auto-wah of some kind are more likely.

Given that the pulsing isn't a set pattern, I'd say its a wah.
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#3
Quote by dannyalcatraz
I can think of a few effects that would get you that pulse: phaser is one option, but I think a tremolo, rotary, wah or auto-wah of some kind are more likely.

Given that the pulsing isn't a set pattern, I'd say its a wah.


i am thinking flanger is probably one component. definitely a wah too.

OP- have you google'd his rig?
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#4
I think the grit in there comes from some lo-fi gear. Some options:

Death By Audio Reverberation Machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwexrkcErR0&sns=em

Raygun Aurora Delay/Verb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h8QK3W2O8I&sns=em

Caroline Kilobyte Lo-Fi Delay
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTaA5HpOrDQ&sns=em

ZVEX Lo-Fi Junky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqEXWXqWGLg&sns=em
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Sep 2, 2015,
#5
Quote by trashedlostfdup
i am thinking flanger is probably one component. definitely a wah too.

The more I listen, the more I think you're right about the flanger.

I'd go with the Subdecay Starlight Flanger MKII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyU1RHX4w6I&sns=em

Add a good wah- Morley, CryBaby, T.Rex, etc. (take your pick)- plus gritty reverb from something like that DBA or Raygun probably gets you close.

You might need a bit more grit, but not much. A deity overdrive or a distortion pedal that can be dialed in for subtlety would be my next candidates. A true fuzz pedal would be too much.
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#6
Didn't think to look up his rig
Found this list - I'm intrigued how he would have combined these to create the tone

1. Ernie Ball Volume
2. Maxon OD-9 , DigiTech Whammy, Lehle switchers
3. Wolftone Stompboard
4. Akai E2 Head Rush
5. Jim Dunlop 95Q Cry Baby Wah Wah
6. Caroline Guitar Company Kilobyte Lo-Fi digital delay
7. Voodoo Lab Micro Vibe Leslie speaker simulator
8. Boss PH-2 SuperPhaser
9. Xotic EP Booster
10. Boss TR-2 Tremolo

Here's the link to the article -

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/rig-tour-john-butler-604806
#7
5. Jim Dunlop 95Q Cry Baby Wah Wah
6. Caroline Guitar Company Kilobyte Lo-Fi digital delay
7. Voodoo Lab Micro Vibe Leslie speaker simulator
8. Boss PH-2 SuperPhaser

I bet these are your keys right here.
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#8
This is one of the reasons I bought the old Pod XT bean in the first place; I'd hear something laden with effects and wanted to duplicate it, but wasn't sure what to buy to do so. So I'd run through the various effects on the Pod until I had it nailed, then went out and bought a version of those effects in standalone pedals.

Two and a half flap-top bins of pedals (and several thousands of dollars) later, it occurred to me..."Hey, wait a minute..."
#9
I started off with a Korg Pandora for essentially the same reason. It- and my other similar devices- still help me shop for my pedals.

I don't know how big your bins are, but my underbed storage bin and my 2 full-size milk crates are probably in the same neighborhood...

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and I always fill my pedal chain
the board is never small
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I’ve got big bins
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they're such big bins
and they're dirty big bins
and he's got big bins
and she's got big balls
but we've got the biggest bins of them all"
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Sep 2, 2015,