#1
Hey guys, I already posted a thread a few weeks ago looking for suggestions on which guitar I should buy. Unfortunately though I wasn't clear enough on my budget and was hoping you guys once again lend me your expertise. My absolute max budget is $500 (in canada.) Products are roughly 25% more expensive here than in the US atm. I want a guitar that will be ideal for metal and hard rock. It must have a floyd rose bridge and hold its tune well. So far I've narrowed my search down to this guitar. Is it worth getting? I'm open to other suggestions as long as they fit my budget.


Thanks in advance!


https://www.long-mcquade.com/46123/Guitars/Electric/Fender_Musical_Instruments/JS32_Dinky_DKA-M_Maple_Fingerboard_-_Snow_White.htm
#2
Another option, BC Rich Villain Plot. It has a FR Special which could be a better trem than a licensed Floyd which is what you usually get on entry level guitars. And it's made in Korea instead of China.
#3
Not sure how the market for used instuments is up in Canada but I think you might be able to score a used LTD-400 series (M,MH) and it would be a lot better than a JS Jackson since it would have Duncans or EMGs.
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#4
From my experience an OFR is better than a special. My special likes to go out of tune but my friend's guitars (all with OFRs) stay dead-on no matter how much he abuses them.
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#5
I had that same licensed Floyd on a similar Jackson and it is inferior to an original Floyd, keep on shopping dude.
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#6
How does the B.C. Rich Villian Plot's Floyd Rose Special compare? It would be $500 to buy it in Canada would that still be worth it?
#7
I'd look for a Kramer Baretta Vintage (OFR!)or a used Ibanez RG 550, those cheap knockoff special floyds don't hold tune very well.
#8
Crazy idea here but would I be able to upgrade the trem system on the Jackson RS32 to an original floyd rose down the line?
#9
Look for a Godin Redline 3:

http://www.godinguitars.com/godinredline3p.htm
http://www.amazon.com/Godin-Redline-Electric-Guitar-Natural/dp/B001QCXS28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mKZyo-sm8I&sns=em
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DClLhUWqx24&sns=em

I think they've recently been discontinued- I can't find them on Godin's recently reworked website- but they're still out there on shelves. That deal on Amazon is an obvious clearance price because they're @$800 everywhere else. Since Godin is Canadian, you might be able to find one even cheaper, especially on the used market.

The Godin Velocity was sort of a predecessor to the Redlines, and came as a HSS, and is also worth looking for on the used market.
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#11
As I understand, they're licensed Floyds- couldn't find much in the way of complaints.

$400 is definitely a price I'd pay for one.
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#12
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Hey guys, I already posted a thread a few weeks ago looking for suggestions on which guitar I should buy. Unfortunately though I wasn't clear enough on my budget and was hoping you guys once again lend me your expertise. My absolute max budget is $500 (in canada.) Products are roughly 25% more expensive here than in the US atm. I want a guitar that will be ideal for metal and hard rock. It must have a floyd rose bridge and hold its tune well. So far I've narrowed my search down to this guitar. Is it worth getting? I'm open to other suggestions as long as they fit my budget.


Thanks in advance!


https://www.long-mcquade.com/46123/Guitars/Electric/Fender_Musical_Instruments/JS32_Dinky_DKA-M_Maple_Fingerboard_-_Snow_White.htm


Avoid the JS series Jacksons like the plague. Also that Godin has a Licensed Floyd. Which are typically the worst. And you could upgrade the floyd in the JS series but it still wouldn't be very good. After checking your local Craigslist I'd try talking this guy down in price...http://victoria.craigslist.ca/msg/5207984098.html Also. It's not a German made Floyd. That one is made in Korea. So use that as leverage. Still a great floyd though. I've had them on my last 2 guitars and they work great.

Ohhh. This looks decent. Looks like it'll need a setup but it's got some solid hardware in

it.http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/bnc/msg/5201880054.html
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#13
LFRs typically are not the best, but I have looked: not many people complaining about the ones on Godins.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
#14
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Avoid the JS series Jacksons like the plague. Also that Godin has a Licensed Floyd. Which are typically the worst. And you could upgrade the floyd in the JS series but it still wouldn't be very good. After checking your local Craigslist I'd try talking this guy down in price...http://victoria.craigslist.ca/msg/5207984098.html Also. It's not a German made Floyd. That one is made in Korea. So use that as leverage. Still a great floyd though. I've had them on my last 2 guitars and they work great.

Ohhh. This looks decent. Looks like it'll need a setup but it's got some solid hardware in

it.http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/bnc/msg/5201880054.html


Hey thanks a lot for your honesty, and taking the time to search that up for me! That ESP does interest me. Only thing that concerns me is that it obviously has no bridge pickup (by design i know lol) How would this guitar compare?

http://nanaimo.craigslist.ca/msg/5160338170.html
Last edited by malio14 at Sep 8, 2015,
#16
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Hey thanks a lot for your honesty, and taking the time to search that up for me! That ESP does interest me. Only thing that concerns me is that it obviously has no bridge pickup (by design i know lol) How would this guitar compare?

http://nanaimo.craigslist.ca/msg/5160338170.html


It has a bridge pickup, but no neck pickup. That Dean LOOKS sweet, imo. But it's a $600 guitar new here and has few redeemable specs. Licensed Floyd and Dean stock humbuckers. The ESP would be a lot nicer. You'll miss the neck for cleans and leads, but for rhythm and some leads you'll be fine. Also. If you could go THAT high, or talk the guy down...This is what I would buy. Most likely. These things are incredible. http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/pml/msg/5175884670.html

EDIT: Super serious. It's got a bolt-on natural feeling neck which I've learned to LOVE recently, a comfortable body, ebony fingerboard, EMG's, and a 1000 Series Floyd. (1000 series is basically as close to a German made Floyd as you'll get. I've used them in both of my Floyd guitars and LOVED them.) AND it comes with a case and has been on the market for 28 days. Might get a good deal on it. That's what I'd buy from your CL for Metal and HARD rock.
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#17
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One more question for you guys. I do already have an Epiphone Les Paul Standard. Would it be a better use of my money if instead of buying a new guitar I upgraded the bridge to a Floyd Rose FRX and maybe the pickups in the guitar as well?

FRX's are kind of an unknown quantity at the moment; we've seen the advertising but few people have put the money down and told the tale yet - and nobody really knows how well they cope with long-term use. We also know that previous attempts at surface-mount Floyds haven't lasted very long in the range.

Also, while I resent the phrase "polish a turd" being used in reference to something decent like an Epi Standard, it is a lot of money to drop on what's still basically a budget guitar - that combined with the uncertain status of the FRX means I'd strongly discourage that course of action. I don't think there's very often a situation where installing a Floyd on a guitar not routed for one is a good idea.

For what it's worth, there are a few generalisations being thrown around in this thread - you've got to be aware that, by definition, there's no set standard for what a licensed Floyd is. Some are crap and some are decent depending on manufacturer. And yeah, as he^ says the 1000 series is the real "next-best-thing" unless you go Schaller or Gotoh.
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FRX's are kind of an unknown quantity at the moment; we've seen the advertising but few people have put the money down and told the tale yet - and nobody really knows how well they cope with long-term use. We also know that previous attempts at surface-mount Floyds haven't lasted very long in the range.

Also, while I resent the phrase "polish a turd" being used in reference to something decent like an Epi Standard, it is a lot of money to drop on what's still basically a budget guitar - that combined with the uncertain status of the FRX means I'd strongly discourage that course of action. I don't think there's very often a situation where installing a Floyd on a guitar not routed for one is a good idea.

For what it's worth, there are a few generalisations being thrown around in this thread - you've got to be aware that, by definition, there's no set standard for what a licensed Floyd is. Some are crap and some are decent depending on manufacturer. And yeah, as he^ says the 1000 series is the real "next-best-thing" unless you go Schaller or Gotoh.


Fair enough, guess I won't go that route haha
#19
You should still buy that banshee.
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#20
That Banshee is a great guitar, and so is that Godin. To me, the Godin is a slightly better deal, but not quite the guitar of the Banshee. That's kind of a mute point though as how you like either one will depend more on how the guitar feels and has been treated over the years. I say go try both.

The Canadian dollar is shit right now, so getting either of those guitars for the prices mentioned is pretty damn good.
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#21
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You should still buy that banshee.

Yeah you guys are right the Banshee looks pretty sick lol I messaged the guy. Only thing is he didn't put where he lived on craigslist so I have a feeling he lives somewhere in the us. We will see though XD
#22
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Yeah you guys are right the Banshee looks pretty sick lol I messaged the guy. Only thing is he didn't put where he lived on craigslist so I have a feeling he lives somewhere in the us. We will see though XD


Hope it works out man. Seems to me to be the best guitar for your money in your area. As long as he is in your area. lol
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#23
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Hope it works out man. Seems to me to be the best guitar for your money in your area. As long as he is in your area. lol

UPDATE: Luckily the guy did live fairly close to me and I decided to buy the guitar. Best decision ever! The guitar plays and sounds amazing! Wasn't sure I would be happy with the active pickups in it, but I was pleasantly surprised! Also stays in tune extremely well! Even after dive bombing like crazy lol Anyways I just wanted to update you guys and say thanks for all the help!
Last edited by malio14 at Sep 22, 2015,
#24
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UPDATE: Luckily the guy did live fairly close to me and I decided to buy the guitar. Best decision ever! The guitar plays and sounds amazing! Wasn't sure I would be happy with the active pickups in it, but I was pleasantly surprised! Also stays in tune extremely well! Even after dive bombing like crazy lol Anyways I just wanted to update you guys and say thanks for all the help!


Booyah! Been hoping to hear this. Congratz on the guitar man! Happy playing!
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Style is in the hands. Taste is in the hands. But tone? Tone is in the gear.