Poll: Were You Silent For 9/11
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Yes I held a respectful silence
4 5%
No I continued with my life as normal
74 95%
Voters: 78.
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#1
Did you hold a silence for the 9/11 attacks, 14 years on? Is it appropriate? Are the loss of life from the wars that stemmed from the attacks justified?

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Last edited by EndTheRapture51 at Sep 11, 2015,
#5
It isn't 9 November yet.

Plus I don't believe me keeping silent for a minute will have any effect on the world. Maybe only for you people for different reasons.
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#6
It's only one of the most important and consequential and tragic events in history, so yeah I think it's time we stopped giving a shit and start acknowledging that Bush did 9/11 #thinkforyourself #realeyesrealizereallies
#7
Silence Can't Melt Steel Beams

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#8
I don't do the silence thing just generally. The human mind tends to wander, and I find it terribly insincere, especially considering the things the US has done that make 9/11 look pale, and indeed, other mass murders, terrorist attacks, genocides, famines etc that occurred both at the time and after 9/11 happened around the globe as a result of the actions of other governments. It is a terrible case of American exceptionalism to mourn that whilst ignoring all of those others, as most seem to do.

Iraq was p. much illegal. Afghanistan had /some/ reasoning behind it but still the quite regular drone strikes on civilians happen. No good excuses for that happening.

Lamentation and consideration (so as to learn from them) should always be given for such horrible events, but the staged and contrived silences are largely insincere and pretentious, imo.
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#10
[quote="Banjocal It is a terrible case of American exceptionalism to mourn that whilst ignoring all of those others, as most seem to do.[/QUOTE"]
Yeah because prioritizing your own situation over others is an American invention.
#11
I think that instead of being silent for a minute, everyone should scream at the top of their lungs for a full minute.

Not only are you more actively showing how you feel about the whole thing, you'd also be helping the market and creating jobs:
- More earplugs sold because people don't want to go deaf, in other words, more people needed to make earplugs, in other words more jobs
- Very likely an increase in the number of ruptured vocal chords and ear drums, in other words more visits to the doctor, in other words more doctors needed, in other words more jobs
#12
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Yeah because prioritizing your own situation over others is an American invention.

No, you guys just stole it and pretended it was your idea all along.
#14
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Yeah because prioritizing your own situation over others is an American invention.
Except it's not just the US that does it, and they STILL ignore their own crimes - both recent and old - for the other 364 days of the year. C'mon m8 u being silly. Did you read the rest of my paragraph AT ALL?
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#15
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Moment of silence or not, ya could at least try to show some respect. But what else should I expect though....

If America showed the rest of the world some respect, we'd reciprocate.
#17
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If America showed the rest of the world some respect, we'd reciprocate.

What's your ish today?

Edit: I wanted to make a joke, but that would probably just get me on the wrong government list.
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#18
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Moment of silence or not, ya could at least try to show some respect. But what else should I expect though....


People die every day. Why is this tragedy deserving of respect more than others?

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#19
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If America showed the rest of the world some respect, we'd reciprocate.
This too, though some British schools still do it from what I've seen (they certainly made me bloody do it).

And I mean at the end of the day joking about 9/11 in a self-aware way is, though tasteless, still an act of less disrespect than the way the media used their deaths. To them, death and suffering is merely pornography.

Not to condone making jokes myself, I simply find that say how horrible such an event was in a thread like this is next to worthless, and doesn't need saying.
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#20
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What's your ish today?

Edit: I wanted to make a joke, but that would probably just get me on the wrong government list.

I lost my random ish table, so I can't look it up right now.

I rolled an 18, though.
#21
Was I supposed to do something special?

I mostly just studied for an exam. Nothing 9/11 related happens here though there was a student anti-racism rally to show support for the refugees but I couldn't attend

edit: No wait that was the 9th.

edit: Oh hey it's the 11th. Still, no 9/11 stuff here


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
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#22
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I lost my random ish table, so I can't look it up right now.

I rolled an 18, though.

Nice. I had sex with a 16 year old.
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#23
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how often do you even think about tragedies that dont occur in the us

I don't.......unless I visit the Holocaust Memorial Museum in DC, or the Arlington National Cemetery.

I'm not advocating others show respect by having a moment of silence, but suggest others at least try and show respect. But like I said, I don't have high expectations for that.
#25
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Was I supposed to do something special?

I mostly just studied for an exam. Nothing 9/11 related happens here though there was a student anti-racism rally to show support for the refugees but I couldn't attend

edit: No wait that was the 9th.

I'm pretty sure you still have the day itself tho
#26
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Did you hold a silence for the 9/11 attacks, 14 years on? Is it appropriate? Are the loss of life from the wars that stemmed from the attacks justified?

I was 6 at the time, so no. And I didn't even know it's September again, so no. And the following loss of life was at least 50 times to 250 times the loss, but even if it had been half the casualties of 9/11, no.
#27
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I'm pretty sure you still have the day itself tho

Yeah but that is not for another 2 months


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#29
Ali I'm asking about today

I was like...9 at the time I think and I don't remember much apart from walking home with me mum and the next day we had a silence. Then every year after that. Thankfully at some point we stopped doing silences.

That should be for Remembrance Day only in my opinion.

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#30
9/11 doesn't in any way justify the wars America started on the back of it and all the innocents that were killed on the other side of that conflict, but that doesn't mean the people that died in the Trade Center shouldn't be remembered and respected, as far as I'm concerned
#31
In America, yes. ^

I don't want to be associated with all the political bullshit behind it, so I'd rather just get on with my day


Gozd in gora poj,
silen ženimo hrup,
uboga gmajna, le vpup, le vkup,
le vkup, le vkup z menoj,
staro pravdo v mrak tulimo,
da se pretulimo skozi to zimo
#32
The families of those who died will always remember their loved ones.

What's more important is to not let the lives of 2,000 Westerners be justification for wars that killed orders of magnitudes more people around in the world.

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#33
Did the war in afghanistan improve things for the population there?
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#34
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Did the war in afghanistan improve things for the population there?
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#35
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It's not a troll attempt but a serious question. If it did, then can't we say the wars were justified?
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#36
I mean I feel bad for every tragedy and say a little prayer if that counts, but I try to say a little prayer every day.

Personally, I like to think if the dead could speak, they'd tell us they found peace and wouldn't want their death holding us back from enjoying ours. That it's enough to have been remembered.

I feel a little embarrassed having said that now. I don't usually post my beliefs like that.
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#37
We didn't in work this year. Which was a bit weird. I did personally stop for a few seconds though. And I'm not even in America.

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#38
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Ali I'm asking about today

I was like...9 at the time I think and I don't remember much apart from walking home with me mum and the next day we had a silence. Then every year after that. Thankfully at some point we stopped doing silences.

That should be for Remembrance Day only in my opinion.

This is probably how a lot of people remember it tbh. I keep hearing from other people (not just UG) "I was only 5", "I was 10", etc. I have to remember sometimes that I have a 16 year old sister, and she was practically a baby when this happened. It's not possible for her to feel the same way about a historically tragic event or time period than someone who lived through it from the vantage point of being an adult, or in my case (17 years old) a near adult.

The same way I cannot possibly understand what it was like for most of the world in WW2, for Americans immediately after Pearl Harbor, for Americans immediately following the Kennedy assassination, for the split American public during the Vietnam War, the God awful feeling of impending nuclear holocaust during the Cold War era, etc.

Like personally, as far as terrorism attacks goes against any country, I will NEVER forget the Pakistan school massacre just LAST YEAR where the Taliban killed over 130 kids, and several teachers. Even going so far as to burn a few teachers alive in front of the children. Then 4 months later they do it again, nearly 150 kids and teachers, in Kenya.

Today's just an anniversary that makes me think of the morning of 9/11/2001, and it makes my heart ache a little cause I know a little of me died inside that day. It also makes me think of everything that's happened since then, and makes me sad as well. It's been a shitty 14 years for the majority of the world since then.

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I mean I feel bad for every tragedy and say a little prayer if that counts, but I try to say a little prayer every day.

Personally, I like to think if the dead could speak, they'd tell us they found peace and wouldn't want their death holding us back from enjoying ours. That it's enough to have been remembered.

I feel a little embarrassed having said that now. I don't usually post my beliefs like that.

Don't be, man That was really nice to read, and cheered me up a little
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#39
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This is probably how a lot of people remember it tbh. I keep hearing from other people (not just UG) "I was only 5", "I was 10", etc. I have to remember sometimes that I have a 16 year old sister, and she was practically a baby when this happened. It's not possible for her to feel the same way about a historically tragic event or time period than someone who lived through it from the vantage point of being an adult, or in my case (17 years old) a near adult.

The same way I cannot possibly understand what it was like for most of the world in WW2, for Americans immediately after Pearl Harbor, for Americans immediately following the Kennedy assassination, for the split American public during the Vietnam War, the God awful feeling of impending nuclear holocaust during the Cold War era, etc.

Like personally, as far as terrorism attacks goes against any country, I will NEVER forget the Pakistan school massacre just LAST YEAR where the Taliban killed over 130 kids, and several teachers. Even going so far as to burn a few teachers alive in front of the children. Then 4 months later they do it again, nearly 150 kids and teachers, in Kenya.

Today's just an anniversary that makes me think of the morning of 9/11/2001, and it makes my heart ache a little cause I know a little of me died inside that day. It also makes me think of everything that's happened since then, and makes me sad as well. It's been a shitty 14 years for the majority of the world since then.

I'd say the 14 years before 9/11 were more shitty for the world. It's just that 9/11 made people more open to foreign news. The 90s were full of genocides.
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#40
Ya the 90s were pretty shit but it's harder for the media to portray African / Easter European ethnic conflicts as an insidious evil threat to the West. Meanwhile 9/11 was brown people killing white people.

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