#2
Zen was a type of mp3 player until the iPod ****ed it up the arse and left it for dead at the side of the road.
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#3
Why don't you do some research for yourself on Zen Buddhism rather than asking a forum of people who likely don't even understand what Zen, Buddhism and Taoism are let alone how they differ?

Read Tao te Ching, Andrew Juniper's book on Wabi Sabi, Yoshida Kenko and (though I haven't really read from him myself) Shunryu Suzuki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen

EDIT: I'm currently reading this, and it has some relevance to your question: http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/buddhism.htm
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#4
my first good mp3 player



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#5
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But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
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and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#7
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Why don't you do some research for yourself on Zen Buddhism rather than asking a forum of people who likely don't even understand what Zen, Buddhism and Taoism are let alone how they differ?

Read Tao te Ching, Andrew Juniper's book on Wabi Sabi, Yoshida Kenko and (though I haven't really read from him myself) Shunryu Suzuki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen

EDIT: I'm currently reading this, and it has some relevance to your question: http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/buddhism.htm



I've read an intro to zen by Shunryu Suzuki, I thought maybe someone here would have some insight, it's a large community, someone must know something about it.
#8
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Zen was a type of mp3 player until the iPod ****ed it up the arse and left it for dead at the side of the road.


Hey I've got one of those. The audio jack broke though, only plays one headphone. SO now I have one of theeeese:



On topic: Zen is actually a marketing buzzword for a state of mind that you have no conceivable way of understanding because no one does and it's bollocks.
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#9
It's how Germans talk. Und zen I vent to ze market to get som milch.
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#10
One answer:

A young fish asked an elder fish what the ocean it had heard so much about was. The elder fish replied that the ocean was all around the young fish, was where the fish lived, where it died. The ocean was inside the young fish, and outside of it.

Another answer:
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#12
"If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him." "The Tao that can be spoken of is not the true Tao."....Etc.

Zen Buddhism is the Japanese translation of the Chinese "Chan" Buddhism which was brought to China from it's place of origin in India, reputedly by the monk Boddiharma. There are many legends associated with Boddiharma including the origins of Chinese martial arts. (That's nonsense....He likely did teach his monks a form of Yoga.)
Anyway, when Chan Buddhism migrated to Japan, it was appropriated by the Samurai culture as a warrior religion which would help the warrior approach death with equanimity.
After the long warring period in Japanese culture, Zen (so the Japanese called it) settled down into a more conventional form.
Part and parcel of the form is the "Koan" which are meaningless sayings that are supposed to "shock the mind" of the student. Extensive meditation as well.
There are actually a variety of Japanese sects of Buddhism, some approaching Jainism in their disregard for the material world.
#15
Didn't they use Zen Buddhism to convince japense kamikaze pilots to dive into American warships at pearl harbor?
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Zen was a type of mp3 player until the iPod ****ed it up the arse and left it for dead at the side of the road.

Are these the ones that shipped with EmoDio or were those the Samsung ones?
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#17
omggggg this brings me BACK


...modes and scales are still useless.


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Didn't they use Zen Buddhism to convince japense kamikaze pilots to dive into American warships at pearl harbor?



No, That was bushido.

And there were no kamikaze at Pearl Harbor. Kamikaze didn't come around until near the end of the war
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#20
zen is like being awake and immersed in the nowness of that around you

it's not focus exactly - if anything, one doesn't remember much from a zen state.
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#21
Zenigame.
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#25
From what I gather Zen ultimately boils down to a rejection of western philosophy. E.j concepts like "being", etc lose their meaning, which the koans make some examples of in an absurd manner. This frees you from these issues allowing you to dwell on your daily life, seeking "enlightenment" and stuff.
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#26
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From what I gather Zen ultimately boils down to a rejection of western philosophy.

I'm sure I'm 90% wrong though.
correct!

Zen has unformed origins that can be traced back to the 5th century (just to use Wikipedia rather than the books lying 4 meters away from me).
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#27
There's more East:West crossover than you might think. Some monk came over after seeing a bunch of connections with French philosophy, and all the neurology/Zen work studies that are being done.

Some great guys to check out are Jon Kabat-Zinn and Alan Watts if you're interested in seeing the meld
#28
It's also interesting to note how principles of Wabi Sabi are becoming less prominent in Japan whereas they're beginning to become more prevalent in the West. this is purely anecdotal though, so don't place too much weight on such an argument.
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